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  • Rookie - 920 Points Mike Acker (10/2/2014 1:18:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    (Did you mean this one, John?)


    Phallic upheavals of steel and glass
    pierce the air with sibilant thrusts.
    This unctuous high-rising
    does nothing for the stoic skies.

    Far from crest-fallen,
    the unadulterated masses
    of surfeit height and weight
    ascend insouciantly,
    sublimating their unfulfilled desires
    with yet more invidious growth.

    Filled with sanguine, but ill-fated expectations
    they persist rapaciously
    in an obscene attempt to dominate.
    The cerulean skies however, not as ductile
    as their acquiescent manners seem to suggest,

    settle phlegmatically over these exigent
    protrusions with subtle, almost wistful soughing.
    Denied the rapturous climax,
    they are doomed to stand ever-erect,
    like deranged, Cossack sentries
    guarding bankrupt vaults.

    Vaunted by only the narcissists,
    they will hold none,
    but the vain
    in their thrall.

    Mike Acker

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    • Alexander Rizzo (10/2/2014 2:12:00 PM) Post reply

      'settle phlegmatically over these exigent protrusions with subtle, almost wistful soughing.' goodness that's a mouthful lol...how do you go from under-writing so badly, to over-writing so badly. ... more

  • Rookie - 158 Points Zoila T. Flores (10/2/2014 12:47:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Absolutely, Your Hobby has to be enjoyable. However, we just have to pay attention to the rhyming and verse. And try to make it sound musical to the reader's ear. That's what Poetry is about.

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    • Gulsher John (10/2/2014 5:40:00 PM) Post reply

      yes, in old times it was so('what you said) . Stay here for awhile and i m sure you will forget your definition.

  • Freshman - 1,041 Points Jacqueline Nash (10/2/2014 11:22:00 AM) Post reply

    As I wrote on the Writing Poetry Forum:
    The main thing when writing poetry is that you enjoy writing it. Whether it is written to convey a message, as a cathartic process or exercise; or written purely as a beautiful flow of words, rhyming or not, to describe an experience or anything that has inspired you, it doesn't matter. People often try to defend their style of poetry by denigrating others. I say it doesn't matter, ignore them, choose your own style, work on it, improve on it until you are happy with the results. Everybody has their own preference when it comes to poetry and you can't please everybody, so stay true to yourself and write what comes naturally to you. It's not some competition of who can write more intellectually than somebody else, it's about passion and getting that over in the best way you can.
    You can argue until you are blue in the face about what is the best poetry or what poetry is, but if you are comfortable with what you write, it really shouldn't matter.

  • Rookie - 587 Points Jefferson Carter (10/2/2014 10:47:00 AM) Post reply

    Monty the Mule, please dump your Rizzo persona. He sounds just as stuffy and wrong-headed as you. Why bother disguising your ass-i-ninity?I love it when you toss around terms like " lyrical, " as if you have the foggiest idea what it means.

    Contrary to your comments below, I'm not competing against D.H. Lawrence. Although you're one of the most virulently ambitious scribblers I know, writing poetry is not a competition to climb an imagined poet pecking order. I write as well as I can, according to the direction the poem suggests as I compose it. If anything, " Geneology" is satirical and not meant to be especially " lyrical, " however that term resonates in the desert of your mind. As you might say in one of your more intelligible moments, comparing it to " Piano" is like comparing snapples to ho-ranges.

  • Rookie - 920 Points Mike Acker (10/1/2014 11:18:00 PM) Post reply | Read 9 replies

    Bedouin Woman

    The Bedouin woman seems old and tired.
    Her favorite son's star is tattooed
    inside her heart. Outside hangs that bloody
    cross. Every morning she places a golden
    dome upon her head, becoming a beacon
    for all those dead.

    Her oldest has returned from a bitter
    exile and inhuman fate, displacing his youngest
    brother from their Mother's side. She cried
    sanguine tears for many thousand years
    to have him back, but he is not of her,
    like before.

    Her children play their cruel games
    at her ancient, brittle feet. All are hers
    from Fathers now buried deep. Her old hands,
    brown and warm, cannot comfort, anyone,
    anymore. She will live for ever.
    She is the mother of them all.

    Mike Acker

    (I am not ashamed of anything I have written, unlike some people I know. At least I am realistic about the level of my poetry. My excuse, and a good one if I may say so, is that I have only been interested in poetry(let alone writing it) since April/May of 2012) . What is your excuse, " Scotty Dogg" ? Lamont Palmer claims he has been writing for over 40 years and Cherry Gonzales is even married to a Poet Laureate(of the universe, I believe) , from what " personas" have pointed out.)

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  • Rookie - 920 Points Mike Acker (10/1/2014 9:01:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    For all our devout members, especially Sherrie Kolb Cassel and Lamont Palmer. It may help inspire!


    (The state-of-the-art 70,000 square foot museum brings the pages of the Bible to life, casting its characters and animals in dynamic form and placing them in familiar settings. Adam and Eve live in the Garden of Eden. Children play and dinosaurs roam near Eden’s Rivers. The serpent coils cunningly in the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Majestic murals, great masterpieces brimming with pulsating colors and details, provide a backdrop for many of the settings.)

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    • Professor Plum (10/1/2014 10:14:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Can you post 'Bedouin Woman' one more time?I miss that ba*tard. So poignant! Wasn't the son suckling on the mother's teat at one point?You got some Stevens in ya, boy!

  • Gold Star - 12,222 Points Gajanan Mishra (10/1/2014 8:32:00 PM) Post reply

    One who loves me, One who is in truth, One who is in Non-violence is my Father. Let me called him " Father"

  • Rookie - 547 Points Nehemiah Theophylus Haokip (10/1/2014 2:51:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    when I have one through the Bible especially the book of Psalm and son of Solomon it tells 100% about the poetry of the love of God and man and when I read the book of Rig Veda a Hinduism it tells about the poetry of the spiritual and morality and when I read the book of Koran it tells about the poetry of the victory and the love of God. it seems every Religious book was begin from the Psychological Imagination of Poetry.

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  • Rookie - 920 Points Mike Acker (9/30/2014 9:34:00 PM) Post reply

    Finding enjoyment in reading the poetry of a devout christian(believing in christ's virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, and the holy trinity, etc.) is like taking seriously Thomas Jefferson's(slave owner) definition of human freedom, or excitedly reading Hitler's book, 'Finding The Right Final Solution To Your Everyday Problems'.

  • Rookie - 587 Points Jefferson Carter (9/30/2014 11:11:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    Monty the Mule sez, " Actually Adam Snow does do JC harm. Poets who write in a rhythm and rhyme style pose an existential threat to poets like JC. They know if the mainstream literary community begins to shift more toward formality as the preferred style (something that has never changed among general readers) it would render their flat, prosy narratives, not musical enough to be thought of as strong poetry. Everyone knows instinctively that's true. Its just a matter of the literary community admitting it again. It would save the craft of poetry, but of course put a lot of 'poets' out of business, so to speak, or at the very least compromise their reputations. That's why JC froths at the mouth in anger, and wildly dismisses the techniques of formal poetry when he is confronted by them. I understand his plight perfectly."

    What mind-sewage! ! The majority of " general readers" have read nothing later than the Frost poems they were forced to encounter in high school. Those who " love" poetry may read Billy Collins, if anyone, an avatar of the plain-spoken. Formal poetry is dead, dead, dead. In the 90s, the " New Formalists" tried to revive the corpse but to no avail. The " mainstream" poetry community, if it exists at all, is now composed of MFAs and aspiring poets. Whatever new thing is coming down the poetry pike (and Monty the Mule should know this) won't be formal but strange, genre-bending and theory-driven.

    Of course, not one of MM's comments above relates to Adam Snow, who hasn't even a nodding acquaintance with the " techniques of formal poetry." Adam's proud-as-punch doggerel isn't worth reading, much less seriously discussing.

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    • Mike Acker (10/2/2014 12:18:00 AM) Post reply

      Don't take this personally, Adam, but Palmer will always encourage third rate poets(check his " critiques" in the poem section) . A mediocrity can never handle better work than his own, unl ... more

    • Alexander Rizzo (10/1/2014 10:22:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      cmon guys, look at mr carter's poem 'geneolgy', then look at that poem, 'piano'....'piano' blows carters poem out of the water, this isn't rocket science, some styles are jusr more lyrical than others ... more

    • Adam M. Snow (10/1/2014 7:54:00 PM) Post reply

      I have to say, I do agree with Lamont. Every time someone post a formal poem like myself, you insult it.

    • Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black (9/30/2014 5:29:00 PM) Post reply

      I write both styles of poetry: tradition ... more

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