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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (5/8/2005 3:07:00 AM) Post reply
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    message to geriatric, jerry stay out of my work, do not comment and i will stay out of yours if you could call it poetry, you thought you could push me around
    but heh buddy i kick and i kick, keep your war to yourself the war is over
    time to move on, time to write poetry, not about war

  • Rookie Andy Konisberg (5/7/2005 2:06:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    It would be interesting to get views on this piece by Bukowski:


    'question and answer'


    he sat naked and drunk in a room of summer
    night, running the blade of the knife
    under his fingernails, smiling, thinking
    of all the letters he had received
    telling him that
    the way he lived and wrote about
    that-
    it had kept them going when
    all seemed
    truly
    hopeless.

    putting the blade on the table, he
    flicked it with a finger
    and it whirled
    in a flashing circle
    under the light.

    who the hell is going to save
    me? he
    thought.

    as the knife stopped spinning
    the answer came:
    you're going to have to
    save yourself.

    still smiling,
    a: he lit a
    cigarette
    b: he poured
    another
    drink
    c: gave the blade
    another
    spin.

    -from The Last Night of the Earth Poems

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    • Rookie Poetry Hound (5/8/2005 6:24:00 AM) Post reply

      I kind of like this one. The blade represents danger and possibly suicide, but he is spinning it to supposedly find answers. It's not terribly witty but the end made me smile a little. At least it's n ... more

  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (5/7/2005 9:46:00 AM) Post reply

    Now I just want to say that I read the “Cows In Art Class” poem that Adam Reynolds recommended (too long to post here) . To me, it’s like much of Buk’s poems – stream-of-consciousness candy, easy to read but nothing very insightful, outrageous for the sake of being outrageous, sort of fun to read in the way that bathroom graffiti is sort of fun to read.

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (5/7/2005 9:26:00 AM) Post reply

    I publicly challenge Mark Fry to post any and all comments I have EVER posted on this or any other website.
    Are you afraid?
    Yes there is the possibility of a jail sentence, not just a fine.
    Do not worry, we will finish you.
    Best wishes until then
    H

  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (5/7/2005 7:21:00 AM) Post reply

    Michael, I checked out James Mills when you first suggested it. I didn't comment on his poems before because I felt they were just okay. But the little one he posted a little while ago was nice.

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (5/7/2005 6:26:00 AM) Post reply

    Herbchen liebchen,
    Why not do what keith hilling suggests, keep private spats to private correspondence and stop ruining the site for newcomers and regulars alike, OK?

  • Rookie Andy Konisberg (5/7/2005 6:07:00 AM) Post reply

    I will take a look at the poems Michael. I must have missed your earlier posting in the deluge.

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (5/7/2005 6:03:00 AM) Post reply

    This must be the most pathetic transl; ation of the East German thingy of all times. But then again, what does it matter when amateurs discuss it.
    Mark Fry, please feel free to post all my e-mails that I sent to you. I would also like to read them.
    I wonder why you took that one off, and where are your personal details?
    You wouldn't be afraid to face a judge now, would you?

    Before I get through with you I think you will turn religious.

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (5/7/2005 5:51:00 AM) Post reply

    Posted with a groan: I mentioned that a newcomer, James Mills, would appreciate comment on his poems, as that is his reason for posting (unlike some) .
    What happened? He's been 'oned', without comment. One of 'Shepherd's sheep'?
    Then apologies, James. But comment without rating would still be appreciated.

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (5/7/2005 4:23:00 AM) Post reply

    Herbie baby, keep your anti-Semitic filth to the private message boxes, OK? Otherwise we might get the idea that you can hand it out but can't take it?

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