Poetics and Poetry Discussion
(10/19/2013 5:36:00 AM)
Bukowski was a genius.
(10/19/2013 1:56:00 AM)
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PH might consider Buk one of the 10 greatest poets, but that's because this is such a lame site—the opinion of rank amateurs is worthless! I don't know any respectable critic who thinks Buk is a great or even especially good poet. He's not very skilled, and his pose as a working-class hero is both manipulative and tiresome. He IS prolific, but so is an unspayed alley cat.
Don't ever write to please anyone but yourself, the self that is an educated READER., not the self who's a writer. In the heat of composition, judge nothing, but when you revise and shape the material, separate yourself from the author and cast a cold eye on your lines as a demanding reader; you may just write a good poem.Replies for this message:
(10/19/2013 11:13:00 AM)
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Jeff, are you saying amateurs shouldn't have an opinion about poetry?We're the ones who buy the books. I think our opinion does matter, or at least it's not 'worthless'. Otherwise, poetry would only b ... more
(10/19/2013 2:31:00 AM)
well put....The reason I brought up Bukowski is a member, Sherrie Kolb, mentioned him as her favourite of all time. I understood that and when then went to seriously look at her work I was a bit disa ... more
- Steven Ralph (10/19/2013 11:13:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply
(10/18/2013 9:36:00 PM)
Agree Mike...but u know with" time" things change, so the poetry too,
If you remeber the history, man started it with hymne, folks, ballads, romances. i.e. a drama of life
But gradullay we driftted away from such utopian themes.
First we wrote it with Heart but now write with Mind,
First we sung it, now we paint it.
Blank verse, heroic couplet, rhyming turnes into Free Verse... prose-poetry etc
Drama changed into movie
One act playes transformed into long serials.
Definitely it effected our tast too regarding Art and literarute.
anyway you have pointed out a good question.
(10/18/2013 9:11:00 PM)
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Big mistake thinking poetry is 'a genuine human emotion'. Poetry is about words and descriptions. Emotions generally bog a poem down. Try getting rid of the emotion and figure out a unique way to describe some life situation. The situation can be emotional, but the description of it should not be.
(10/18/2013 9:05:00 PM)
I like Chinaski's prose much better than his poetry. That's just me though. The poetry is overrated. Again, I'm not an expert though.