Gulsher john


D`wine


Mistaken by the subsequent races
The STORY of god and His traces;
From Solon to Solomon, and
from Moses to Marx, and of course,
From necromancy to theocracy.
How can He only be a Semitic,
and mute in Gallic and in Attic?
THESE are nothing but fancies, and
an aura of Romance, that brought
humanity in trance, to cease their peace and
Freedom with an uncertain attitude;
And fool the Mortals as a child.

How graciously marked by a Renaissance`s soul, that
there is no sin but ignorance, and
count religion but a childish toy.
Isn`t THIS a fable or old wives` tales?
Priest, monk, Saint, cleric and rabbi
These are but heralds of heaven and hell,
Claimed to be revealed with
scriptures sealed, that deluded
the truth that was 'cognate' to man.
The mysteries of life and death
Of good and evil, Of heaven and hell,
Aren`t illusions and mantal repressions?
That viciously drafted to hail their worldly vision.

Submitted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Edited: Thursday, July 10, 2014

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Dedicated these expressions to a man of letter 'Mr Dinesh Nair'. a good and gentle fellow of the poemhunter.com

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  • Bri Edwards (7/9/2014 10:11:00 PM)

    hiya John, you'll be able to tell who this is (me) (even if you didn't read my name yet) WHEN i tell you to check out the spelling of Mosses [sic]. ha ha.

    i copied this for you:
    Mosses are flowerless plants belonging to the division Bryophyta.
    AND THIS:
    Moses (Hebrew: ???????, Modern Moshe Tiberian Mošéh ISO 259-3 Moše?; Syriac: ???? Moushe; Arabic: ????? Musa?) was, according to the Hebrew Bible and the Qur'an, a former Egyptian prince later turned prophet, religious leader and lawgiver, to whom the authorship of the Torah is traditionally attributed.
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    I count religion but a childish toy,
    And hold there is no sin but ignorance.

    i did some research (not difficult, online) : from Act 1 of The Jew of Malta (c.1592) by christopher marlowe.
    ==============================
    John, Deluded the truth that was cognate

    i'm not very familiar with either word.....cognate OR cogent, but after peeking at both definitions [[AND of course also NOT knowing exactly what you meant to express by the Deluded... line]] cogent sounds to me like you might have meant to use it instead of cognate.
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    cog·nate
    'käg?nat/
    adjective
    adjective: cognate

    1.
    Linguistics
    (of a word) having the same linguistic derivation as another; from the same original word or root (e.g., English is, German ist, Latin est, from Indo-European esti) .
    2.
    formal
    related; connected.
    cognate subjects such as physics and chemistry
    synonyms: associated, related, connected, allied, linked; More
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    cogent
    'koj?nt/
    adjective
    adjective: cogent

    (of an argument or case) clear, logical, and convincing.
    synonyms: convincing, compelling, strong, forceful, powerful, potent, weighty, impactful, effective; More
    valid, sound, plausible, telling;
    impressive, persuasive, eloquent, credible, influential;
    conclusive, authoritative;
    logical, reasoned, rational, reasonable, lucid, coherent, clear
    a cogent argument
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    Aren`t illusions and mantle repressions? .................mantle OR mental? ?
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    i think the word which make most sense in this poem is mystery! it is a mystery to me at least; i don't mean the poem (well, maybe a bit) . i mean life/death, heaven/hell, good/evil.

    you sure stirred up a lot of commenting! ! ! ! good for you! thanks for sharing. :) bri (Report) Reply

  • John Shea (1/5/2013 5:47:00 PM)

    Very deep for me John. I am at this moment drinking D' wine though. John (Report) Reply

  • Valsa George (12/22/2012 11:28:00 PM)

    Going through your poem, D'wine without reading the note at the end, I was going to suggest that you have a very ideal friend, who would be mighty pleased with your poem. But surprisingly at the end, I found your dediction to that very same guy! From time immemorial, there have been people who believed in the existence of God and who found religion, a way of reaching that God. As we know, History is replete with crusades and the names of people who have courted martyrdom in the name of relegion. In the same way, there have been equal or more number of people who hold the opposite view. It simply shows that man has a free will to accept and interpret things as he likes. Ofcourse there is a lot of exploitation taking place in the name of religion and a lot of bloodshed too. But, trust in God is a matter of Faith and there is no place for logical reasoning in matters of Faith. I believe in a religion of tolerance, love and brotherhood and I firmly believe that God is never the one who always weilds a weapin to cut down the heads of people, but a god who can overlook our sins and acts of omission and comission and receive us with extended arms into his bosom of ever engulfing love.

    Coming to your poem, it is excellent in language and presentation though I disagree with the idea. The heading deserves a special applause with its connotations. (Report) Reply

  • Valerie Dohren (12/22/2012 3:07:00 PM)

    Like everyone else, I have my own views about God and religion - I am more interested in the psychological perspective. The poem itself is a great write, and no doubt very thought-provoking. (Report) Reply

  • Bright Morn (12/22/2012 11:03:00 AM)

    Being a believer i must say that there a God even beyond eternity or infinity though not perceptible by our sences or to say beyond the range of our senses as the ultra sonic rays are not audible or the ultraviolet light is not visible. What was when there was nothing? None but Allah,
    the poem is great, the rhythm and flow is excellent, though not agreeing with the thought but really appreciate the quality of the poem, great write. (Report) Reply

  • Www. Poemhunter.com/m-d-dinesh-nair-2 (12/19/2012 9:16:00 AM)

    Honoured I remain for this dedication that is not customarily an indispensable one.......
    But Mr Gulshar, I say illusion and reality have only one difference. If we see things as a part of illusions, we must blame it on our ancestors. Religions have come to stay despite their young age beginning from B.C 22,500 even if we consider the oldest among the concepts of God/gods emerging from the phase of life that made man fear the unknown. Man started fearing fire, floods, natural calamities and eclipses and subsequently created the notions of the supernatural in the early stage, passed through the phases of creating warring and violent Gods of the early Hinduism resorting to rescue of devotees and that of the early Christian God of revenge and later halted at the revision of the concept with the acceptable images of God as projected by Jesus Christ and the civilised Islamic Allah as visualised by his peers as well as the Prophet.
    Just like a kid watching the hero`s final performance in a good film getting amazed at the marvelous show by his favourite actor-star, today`s believer paints his God and presumably fantasizes His omnipresence or omnipotence impossible to be visualised by the trillions of other living beings on the earth.. Man ignores time and space and discards the past of universe without life or with organisms other than he himself on the earth that spanned over millions of years.
    We assume there is a mystery to be solved and then pretend to fail to explain the hypothetical aspects of life, life after death and such Utopian concepts of our own imaginative excesses. We have to die and then can know the truth then, one says. What is the truth there to know? Our option is a matter of common sense- either live with science and facts or die with religions and its Gods..... But a dead man never tells the truth.
    : Man is lost between the intricacy of excessive insight into nothings and the greed for surviving through yet another world after his death. Here animals and birds are better disposed of as they do not fall as victims of fantasy of the mystery self perceived. With reduced intelligence level or a still elevated scientific temper he can perhaps manage without these concerns.

    I may seek to tell it loud for any of you still brooding for an interpretation

    ......If you hear yourself talking to God, you are praying,
    ....But if you hear God ever speaking to you back, you are mad! (Report) Reply

  • Hazel Durham (12/19/2012 6:34:00 AM)

    The great mysteries of lfe we have more questions than answers, these burning questions about life and death has intrigued mankind since time began. We all need love, hope and great spiritual need to sustain us on this amazing journey. I believe we will have all the answers when we pass onto God' eternal love! Brilliant poem! (Report) Reply

  • Unwritten Soul (12/19/2012 5:20:00 AM)

    I dont know who wrote the letter to Mr Dinesh, but as whole as i absorbed by my mind and consciousness...God is the one who we are used to know and should and must to know. Sometimes we are too obsessed with this thing until we lost the sight of relation in mind. Adam to the last prophets, were sent to keep continuing the path that we supposed to see...human always like that, easily lost...even time by time we remake a story from a real story astray...sending prophets is just to make sure the real version is coming to people from one generation to last generation..Of course to talk about it, a sensitive issues because everybody hold different faiths, well we have to respect as everyone has their own mind. I believe in God but as much as i love science it not degrading my believe on my God but it strengthen my believe, because the art of creation is really amazing, through science...well even more than that...just we chose science not mean we have to reject God and divine idea... if we really seek the truth without trying heart to rejecting we may see...Science is always improving but belief must keep on standing like plant toward the sunlight that we must be..on the right path to grow! _Soul (Report) Reply

  • Jahan Zeb (12/19/2012 4:00:00 AM)

    A big star shines above our head. What is above that? and then above That? and then above THat? and then above THAt? and then above THAT? ..? ...? ....? .....? ......? .......? so many questions. Is there an end to the universe? there must be. then What is that end? will that be a wall? or will that be a curtain? What can that be? Do you think these wonderful systems in our bodies came to be by themselves? I don't think so...... There must be a mystery. there are so many questions dear that prove there is Allah (God) . But the problem is that to know the biggest mystery of life the most bitter thing of life has to be tasted (Death) . I am sure about my God.

    So far the quality of your poem is considered, I keep saying you are a literary person. You have got great guts. This a fantastic poetic piece of literature. typical Gulsherian. (Report) Reply

  • Antonio Liao (12/19/2012 12:18:00 AM)

    wonderfully flash-point of what is to be a profane being.... a midway of retrospection of one self....a buff meaning of Life in a limbo....such provocative lines of your poem capture some intriguing issues of today's event....so real and genuine in heart and in reality....kept it up....God bless (Report) Reply

  • S.zaynub Kamoonpuri (12/18/2012 11:37:00 PM)

    Meant to intoxicate? Well im a teetotaller? Is dis propagatin atheism? I don find my religion far from precision. But i do admire d literary expressive ars poetica u employd here. So Kudos 4 dat. (Report) Reply

  • Johnathan Juarez (12/18/2012 12:25:00 PM)

    I really like it. It's pretty awesome and kinda beyond me but maybe not so much to where I couldn't enjoy it. Thanks for letting me know about it a poem this good makes me think and that's what's up (Report) Reply

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