Treasure Island

M.D Dinesh Nair

(Thrissur/Vijayawada)

HOW TO HONOUR OUR POETHOOD?


We may note that some of our poet friends stoop down to levels of mudslinging at those whom they don`t like, making derogatory remarks, posting hurting comments and then managing to win the appreciation of a few for some other writes in all hypocrisy.

Another wrong habit to be done away with is excessive submission of many poems at a time on a regular basis!
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  • Anthony Di''anno (10/3/2013 6:12:00 AM)

    Fair enough. I agree with the majority of comments. I have very little time available to be online and therefore have to make my time count. I try and be honest when I make comments and I always aim to inspire. I am not interested in numbers and ratings and make comments only when I want to. I am not a fan of messaging members with requests to read my poems. As some members have so correctly pointed out the answer lies in writing high quality poems that are gifts to the art itself. Be the change itself when interacting.
    It's good that you care Dinesh :) (Report) Reply

  • Tajudeen Shah (10/1/2013 10:01:00 AM)

    sensible suggestions, and, sure, the fellow bards would never hesitate to promote such thoughts and proposal. Welcome, I submit my humble support to Dineshji at this instance. Regards. (Report) Reply

  • Tirupathi Chandrupatla (9/30/2013 11:28:00 AM)

    Let every poet strive to deliver high quality poems. It should not be a problem if someone delivers a high quantity of high quality poems. Dinesh has provided several thoughts related to poems to be presented. Thoughtfulness in remarks is essential. These remarks are source of encouragement for many. If someone is not impressed, then do not comment. Never make a derogatory comment. Encouragement of others to deliver quality poems is a necessary part of the forum. Thank you Dinesh for your thoughtful proposal. (Report) Reply

  • Diane Hine (9/28/2013 11:04:00 PM)

    Beautiful! (just joking) - seriously, I did read it carefully and agree with you. (Report) Reply

  • Valsa George (9/28/2013 9:37:00 PM)

    Making derogatory remarks about another is offensive and should be discouraged at any cost. Regarding excessive submission at a given point of time, I have a slightly different opinion. If one is capable of writing and posting quality poems, there is no need of restricting the number of submission within a stipulated time. Even if we are not able to read all of them, if we are interested, we can look at them and read them leisurely.
    Since this is an international forum, we have to be more careful about the accuracy of the language by reading and checking over and over again before submission. Some may not be able to understand the mistakes for themselves. Towards such, others have be tolerant, as this is a forum for amateur wtiters.... We cannot expect the same level from all

    Regarding the 4th point, I totally agree! Our comments should be honest. Using hyperboles without even reading the poem is humbug!
    5. Ofcourse the young writers need to be encouraged. Surprisingly, we have now a good array of promising youngsters who can even put the experienced ones to shame
    6 As Dinesh, suggests, coming to the top needn't be our concern, as the rating is not based on reliable yardsticks. The number of 'hits' we recieve largely depends on the number of comments we make on others poems. If we make more comments as Mr. Dave has said, the rating automatically goes up and it has rarely much to do with quality!

    Any way a very interesting and open discourse on poets and poetry. Dinesh, your write will definitely help others excercise certain precautions and sef discipline.
    As ever you keep this forum lively! ! Congrats! ! (Report) Reply

  • Thomas Francis (9/28/2013 2:40:00 AM)

    your opinions are relevant and valuable...........

    And also the poems you write.........

    Keep the spirit.........

    May God bless you........ (Report) Reply

  • Dinesh Nair (9/28/2013 2:16:00 AM)

    I thank Dave Walker, Morality Crusader{? } and Kavya for backing the proposals.. (Report) Reply

  • Kavya . (9/28/2013 2:03:00 AM)

    a very honest and straightforward statements put forth by you Sir, and I agree with all your points......
    1) the indirect approach made by many pointing towards someone written in a coded language is a major disaster of poems that I have found in this site, , , , , , and on top of it, people even appreciating on such poems with usage of adjectives as u have rightly pointed out.............
    2) the sarcastic comments given by some that would hurt the poet or make the other readers form a different opinion as well........
    3) points 3 and 4 duly noted and totally agree with u..........
    a good one Sir........
    u have been blunt and straightforward in your views which in my opinion would only help the other person to grow if he/she takes it in the right sense
    thx for being a guide and mentor for freshers like us (Report) Reply

  • Dave Walker (9/27/2013 7:45:00 AM)

    I agree with a lot of what you say, I have seen hurtful comments but have only seen one poet leave them. As for mud slinging there is no need for it what so ever. As for ratings I totally agree with you, there is some very very good poets who are no where near even the top hundred. It's all down to how many poets on poemhunter read them. There is very little we can do to change how the ratings work. When I stopped smoking I read and commented on many poems, and in return they read mine, and because they had not read my poetry before I ended up in the number one spot. If I had not stopped smoking and not made as many comments I would not have been number one. As for the comments like, A superb poem or a great write, I don't mind that. Sometimes people will read a poem and no matter how much they like it just can't think of what to say, but they
    want to say something just so the poet knows that they like their poems. (Report) Reply

  • Dinesh Nair (9/26/2013 11:54:00 PM)

    Valerie, Lyn, Heather all your views are highly appreciated.Shahziaji, you are right what Aswath wrote ran without explanation and hence my statement. (Report) Reply

  • Lyn Paul (9/26/2013 11:36:00 PM)

    This website is a real inspiration to me with some wonderful members even though I have never met I just know that by their comments and wonderful words they are. Too have something such as this to release what is running through our heads is great. Thank you for these words Dinesh (Report) Reply

  • Shahzia Batool (9/26/2013 2:55:00 PM)

    @ your reply Dinesh ji, thanks for acknowledgement here, yes, i could not write more because of my preoccupations at home...but i read the discussion, and i think you are not discussed as a new member but the one who encourages the new members a lot by your comments on their writes...i think! ! !
    thanks again! ! ! (Report) Reply

  • Valerie Dohren (9/26/2013 12:35:00 PM)

    An interesting discourse Dinesh, and I am inclined to agree with many of the points you make. It is, however, everyone's prerogative to write what they want, unless of course it contains bad language. Therefore, there is little we can do to change things. PH is an extremely large site and this therefore precludes selectivity. I myself post on another site which adheres to many of these ideals, including limiting the number of submissions which may be made in a week to just four. This gives everyone a fair chance of being read, and prevents some writers from hogging the limelight. Good and constructive critique is also encouraged as a means of improving writing skills.
    Your submission here is worthy of thoughtful consideration by all. (Report) Reply

  • Heather Wilkins (9/26/2013 11:42:00 AM)

    As poets we should honor our craft. Encourage the young poets to hone their skills in by doing so our craft will continue to thrive. Show respect for all poets as we are all in different levels of writing. Offer encouraging comments. Trash words is really not poetry, it is just venting emotions in public. This is a community of dedicated writers and we should act as such. (Report) Reply

  • Dinesh Nair (9/26/2013 11:09:00 AM)

    Many many thanks Aswath for ONLY being honest and when we begin to break the hard shell of hypocrisy we are following the only policy. But your reference to my name as a new member is wrong and my resubmissions of writes do not make me a new member. So I myself withdraw my name from the pair referred to.

    Shahziaji is hinting at things but for obvious reasons cannot come out with further comments.. Thanks Madam,

    Mr Thomas Robinson is quite articulate and right here and even without backing the proposals sir, you can also contribute to the cleansing process if you are pleased.. Thank you sir.

    Payal, you could have skipped the first half of the opening sentence for references equal to the eulogy of that kind have no room here.Thank you dear 'student' of things.
    Ms Geetha Jayakumar, you are very frank and I am sure you will be rightly assessed by our friends in future.Thank you madam (Report) Reply

  • Geetha Jayakumar (9/26/2013 10:59:00 AM)

    Sir, I agree with what you want to say. As a new comer, like me made lot of mistakes. But definitely, I would like to tell that many comments from Ph did changed my writings a lot. Many things, I learned and When I was new, I found some poem so tough to understand, but I always made sure to understand it by google dictionary. In this process, I learnt a lot. Some sincere comments, I can easily guess, did change my way of writing. So each time I say I respect your knowledge, its that I am learning from you. I liked many new comers like me can definitely get a chance to make their dream come true. In one sense you are helping many new comers to come up.Thats the only reason, I respect each and everyone here in Ph.
    Yeah, I read others poems and write comments in short example i loved it and wow, wonderful. I agree that I should describe what the poem meant too so that a poet understands how much as a reader I understood poem well.
    Yeah, I do agree I submitted so many poems in 4 months..some went unread too. One poem Neelu went to top, I agree there were many errors, inspite of all mistakes.. Well I did nothing to come to top hot poem list. It surprised me.
    My poems misunderstood because my way of communication is not proper. So I am misunderstood. In Ph forum I asked my poems are miscommunicated, they said write with heart and guts. So the poem Neelu came. I agree readers don't know whether it is real or imaginary. So choice left to them.
    Sir, I agree that I shouldn't make mistake and Not necessary all readers understand me well..
    Yeah, I am quiet sensitive person, so I often pass pleasant comments only, I make sure that I don't want to hurt any person by my words, but I am deeply hurt because of my poems, am being misunderstood. Especially I respect each one of you here, I feel hurt when they write any unpleasant comments. My aim to coming to Ph was only for poems, I can never ever think of making anyones life miserable because of me.
    To the new comers, I often pass motivating comments only because whenever, I write comments I put myself in that place.
    But definitely I request each respected poet to guide us whenever we do mistakes in our poems especially for a new comers like me.
    Thank you Sir, for posting such a write in PH.
    Definitely one can communicate freely in this session. Thanks a lot for your time and patience. (Report) Reply

  • Payal Parande (9/26/2013 10:29:00 AM)

    you are the best teacher for youngsters like us and you have proved my point sir this article is fantastic and true to the core and we should really think of applying this to our ph life...cause when we come here we enter in new world and with that there should be some rules and boundary to keep this place pure....thank you sir for your brilliant thoughts (Report) Reply

  • Thomas A Robinson (9/26/2013 10:10:00 AM)

    When we joined PH we were not given a manual on how to be a poet or rules.Nor were we given a mentor
    or overseer to aid our entry (many poem sites do) . So while I do completely agree with you M. D. Dinesh Nair I cannot back your proposals unless we were to have a vote by all members on rules. Much confusion
    and violations take place and it would be refreshing to have a sense of boundries in which P H could adhere to. (Report) Reply

  • Shahzia Batool (9/26/2013 6:31:00 AM)

    @the title: the honor of the poethood should be the main focus...
    @the note: you said all what many of us here wanted to say, i endorse it all...with appreciating your time that you spent on such an important message for all of us...thank you so much! (Report) Reply

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