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  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (12/22/2005 4:39:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies
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    A Christmas Greeting with a slight difference:
    Holiday Greeting

    (After the Lawyers are done..........)

    Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit our best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all..... and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2006, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only 'AMERICA' in the western hemisphere) , and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee.

    (By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.)

    Merry Christmas

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    • Rookie Jerry Hughes (12/22/2005 3:00:00 PM) Post reply

      Couldn't have said it better myself, Herbert. A well considered analogy. Have a good one, Jerry

    • Rookie Ben Cassel (12/22/2005 11:20:00 AM) Post reply

      Herb, Notwithstanding my fervent desire to refrain from denigrating all other missives I have received corporeally, electronically or postally, I wish to state (off the record) that this is the mos ... more

    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (12/22/2005 4:50:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      U 2

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (12/22/2005 3:02:00 AM) Post reply

    I think you will all agree that the LULU production is flawless.
    The shipping was a different story though.
    I am ready to go for the next one.
    The intro by Michael adds a superb touch to the book and the rather modest bio's, all very well done.
    Relatives impressed, wife serves more wine in the glass (I do like servants) (: -))
    Great for Christmas.

  • Rookie Jeremiah Shine (12/21/2005 7:52:00 PM) Post reply

    I'm having trouble getting access!

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (12/21/2005 6:53:00 PM) Post reply

    4.15 site time, and access to this site has practically ground to a halt!

  • Rookie - 324 Points Alice Vedral Rivera (12/21/2005 5:16:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    I would like to wish everyone safe and joyous Holidays with many blessings in the coming New Year. May everyone's font of creativity flow profusely and may Erato visit often. I am busy with family from out of town, and to top that off, I slipped and tore the ligaments in my ankle (with a possible hairline fracture) so I won't be around for a while - have to keep my foot elevated, iced, etc. Peace and Love - avr

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    • Rookie - 324 Points Lori Boulard (12/21/2005 11:45:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Sorry to hear about your ankle, Alice. Have some wine - always works for me - and relax. Seems that's the theme this season so you're probably not missing much anyway! Happy holidays.

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (12/21/2005 4:39:00 PM) Post reply | Read 5 replies

    Some people felt that 'Recent History', the poem I posted earlier today, was something like a farewell to Poemhunter. I didn't feel that way. It was just a statement that, right now, I don't seem to have the 'key' for turning feelings and ideas into words, and doing so has not been my first priority of late.

    All I do, when I do write (or paint, which I've begun doing a bit of lately, after a long hiatus) , is to try to be faithful to the present moment and, I guess, the Soul, though life's complications and my limitations frequently make
    that challenging. I'm a believer that 'happiness is an inside job'. From time to time, it also just gets up and moves camp, from where one is contentedly ensconsed, and that necessitates change.

    So I'm in a period of change, but that doesn't mean I won't be posting poems frequently again. Living in the Present (which I wish I could do better) often means, of course, not knowing WHAT the future holds.

    Everybody seemed to have a different take on 'Recent History', which I suppose is not at all unusual.

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    • Rookie - 7 Points Lori Boulard (12/21/2005 11:44:00 PM) Post reply

      My motto of the moment is 'Begin. The rest is easy.' OK, it was a fortune cookie, but for once it made sense. Life is not a destination, but a journey. The lucky ones actually get off their duff a ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Michael Shepherd (12/21/2005 6:33:00 PM) Post reply

      Uncertainty, inertia, and yearning go with this time of year, as the Earth pulls round the sharp bend in the circuit?

    • Rookie - 7 Points Herbert Nehrlich1 (12/21/2005 6:04:00 PM) Post reply

      Happy 40th or fiftieth, Max. Change brings things hoped for and things unwanted. Best wishes H

    • Rookie - 7 Points Poetry Hound (12/21/2005 5:49:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      If folks haven't checked out Max's web s ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Joseph Daly (12/21/2005 4:59:00 PM) Post reply

      Glad to hear that Max

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (12/20/2005 8:44:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    I have had a brief interlude from commitments and had a look at a recent gift.
    It's called 'Australian Poems - In His Own Words' by AJS.
    It is very pleasant reading, well illustrated and most pages bare fragments of the soul of Allan.

    Now, all I need is the discip[line to wait three days before I tackle Jefferson's book.


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    • Rookie allan james saywell (12/20/2005 8:57:00 PM) Post reply

      thank you Herbert you are more then kind as i told you the book was written when i had a small body of work and i was untainted by life but the poems are pure in thought and can be read by both chil ... more

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (12/20/2005 5:07:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    What a special day today - Jake and I had lunch together!

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    • Rookie Max Reif (12/20/2005 9:16:00 PM) Post reply

      Didn't know he was over there. that's wonderful, warms my heart, too.

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (12/20/2005 3:42:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Thanks for all your replies. It seems to me we're all quite vulnerable, and if one isn't, I'd like to know the secret (and not sure I'd want to trade) .

    I'm trying to raise my (natural) emotional responses to human situations to a higher level, but it seems a long haul. I'm prone to all human feelings. Goethe, I think, wrote that he could never read of a crime without realizing he could have committed it. (I don't know if I could go quite that far, though.)

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    • Rookie - 7 Points Michael Shepherd (12/20/2005 4:37:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Sure there's a remedy. Have zero self-esteem. Then if anyone AT all likes what you wrote, it's the greatest thing in the world - you feel like a dog that's been unclaimed in the dog pound all its life ... more

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (12/20/2005 10:14:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    BEING IN A GROUP (this one) is ego-deflating.
    It's meant acknowledging that most people don't see me as the greatest poet who has ever lived,
    nor do they see me as an intellectual heavyweight whose words make everyone else hush and listen.

    Coming out of the isolation of being 'a legend in one's own mind' has that price for most of us, I would think. It's a valuable process. Most of us are somewhere on the continuum, neither the brightest, nor the dullest. I suppose every time I post a poem, it is with the hope that THIS time the FIRE will burn into everyone's skull and they will SEE. Some do, some don't. As yet, the entire world does not stand in unanimous agreement with my ego's opinion of me.

    It's all part of the *crucifixion* of the ego, I suppose you can call it, on the altar of the (higher) SELF.

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    • Rookie - 7 Points Joseph Daly (12/20/2005 2:44:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Max, how many people who comment on work, talk about iambic, metre, etc. Not many. For most that sort of thing is innately comprehended, it is the lack of knowledge that stops people from going too ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Mary Nagy (12/20/2005 1:48:00 PM) Post reply

      Max, I think you make an interesting point. I was suprised to see how ''transparent'' people seem to view me. I won't say I had a ''legend in one's own mind'' idea of me......on the contrary. I g ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Ben Cassel (12/20/2005 11:45:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      Max, It is only those who are capable of self-assessment who see what you have described. That is not a weakness you possess. The fact that you recognize the continual crucifixion of the ego and g ... more

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