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  • Marcy Jarvis (11/17/2005 10:20:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    What is FAIR TRADE COFFEE? If you are interested, read attached:

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    • Poetry Hound (11/17/2005 10:23:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Your next assignment is to research 'shade grown' coffee.

    • Marcy Jarvis (11/17/2005 10:20:00 AM) Post reply

      this is from their website: The United States consumes one-fifth of all the world's coffee, making it the largest consumer in the world. But few Americans realize that agriculture workers in the coff ... more

  • Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 9:12:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    just a quick updat on the, you know. My technical staff has the day off (hubby's on a business trip) , so tonight or tomorrow I will convert the updated file(s) to PDF and walk them through If anyone has any further changes, TELL ME TODAY AS THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. I'm just waiting to hear from John TC, Marcy, but if I don't by end of day today we must move forward as is.
    NOTE: some concern arose earlier re: PH's comments/poems. In the interest of fairness, and at the request of several people, I extended an invite to the subject of those comments/poems, who happily added one for the book (quite nice, actually) to balance out the mix. Just didn't want it to be a surprise.
    Now back to those coffee pictures. Aaaaaahhh.

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    • Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 1:09:00 PM) Post reply

      oh, yes, of course, Ronberge. I must have forgotten to mention that everything will again be on our site for everyone's perusal. And, I would like to get a copy first to make sure it's right before ... more

    • Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 11:09:00 AM) Post reply

      ah, that's good to hear, and I believe he appreciated the invite. Thanks, PH.

    • Poetry Hound (11/17/2005 10:21:00 AM) Post reply

      I urged Bob Gotti to submit poems early on, so I'm glad he finally did. I removed his name from my comment-poems.

  • Max Reif (11/17/2005 7:25:00 AM) Post reply | Read 5 replies

    I would like to pick up on Declan and Michael's earlier responses to Sonja's question (whether people post on PH or on the Forum) as to whether this is a community. Declan posed the latter question, and Michael (S.) wrote eloquently about it. I feel this is *definitely* a community. How I got to posting on the Forum was by somehow hearing a poem of mine was being discussed...the poem had some adherents and one strong detractor. I don't know if I knew there WAS a Forum before that (it takes some time for some of us to find our way around this site!) , and at first I merely lurked, open-mouthed in shock that 'I' (well, my poem, my child) was being dissected here. I had no intention of opening my mouth with the seemingly VERY verbal people here, for fear I'd get my foot stuck in it within a few sentences.

    But there was 'another guy inside me' whose suppose desire/need of community and love of poetry got me to start sounding off here, and the rest is-well, ourstory.

    It's always kind of a marvel how 'people whose faces I've (mostly) never seen' can be such an important reference group, but then we've never seen the Soul either! Sometimes I post a poem or a Forum comment and it spices my morning, because I have to go to work and when I come home for my lunch break,4 1/2 hours later, I get to see responses. The other day I posted two short poems and I *really* didn't know whether they 'said anything', it was kind of a risk to be out there with them. Not that anything is REALLY risked...reputation? ...dear me! And when I clicked and faced 'that moment', there were 4 appreciative comments under each poem, each responding to a different facet. Occasionally, I *don't* get the comments, and then I have to either face the fact that the poem needs work, or accept that I still like it but it's 'ahead of its time' or something.

    I definitely carry you folks in my heart. I sometimes feel the same kinds of emotions I feel in a roomful of people. A couple times I've felt the discussion's 'passed me by' or I'm being taken as a 'lightweight'. It may be a bit easier to PRETEND such impasses don't affect my day and mood, and it may be subtle, most of the time, but I think they do.

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    • Alice Vedral Rivera Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 6:44:00 PM) Post reply

      I definitely feel that this is a community - one of which I am glad to be a part. And yes, I appreciate comments but when I don't get any, that's ok too. I don't particularly care for those pesky 'on ... more

    • Mary Nagy Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 10:57:00 AM) Post reply

      Max, I like how you said 'I definitely carry you folks in my heart'. I love that! I feel the same way about this site. No matter how cliche it sounds (I'll admit) this really is like a family. Su ... more

    • Lori Boulard Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 8:50:00 AM) Post reply

      well said, Max. Regarding the Forum, I came here in a similar way, and I dare say it's now like (sorry for choice of simile) my morning coffee. I enjoy all the banter, and very often discover a new ... more

    • Michael Shepherd Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 8:45:00 AM) Post reply

      I'm reading less these days, and apologi ... more

    • Declan McHenry Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 8:28:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

      You are completely correct Max. No need ... more

  • Marcy Jarvis (11/17/2005 7:24:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    New picture updat to let you know that I am taking opinions for best cover art for the upcoming COFFEE issue. Check out four of the contenders that I've tracked down: id=1014575 id=1465976 id=1911003 id=1900942

    message me with your preference or submit your own. Cream, no lumps.

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    • Lori Boulard Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 11:12:00 AM) Post reply

      very good point about cost and supporting the artist, Marcy. Scratch my earlier comment and put me down for the beach one, then.

    • Lori Boulard Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 9:04:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      ooooh, I found my favorite..then again I'm partial to black/white graphics. Check out

    • Lori Boulard Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 9:02:00 AM) Post reply

      see a bunch at coffee/

    • Max Reif Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 7:28:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Gee, ANY of the ones I've looked at woul ... more

  • Allan James Saywell (11/17/2005 4:21:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    i wonder if the pope will open the world cup well he is german i wonder if
    he will bless the Australian soccer team

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  • Allan James Saywell (11/17/2005 2:10:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    you wouldn't want to know i just met a tall pygmy he said to me are you demacratic and i said no but i'm very demonic

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  • Allan James Saywell (11/16/2005 8:04:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies


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  • Allan James Saywell (11/16/2005 7:39:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    what ever happened to that woman from turkey she made the top five hundred list and retired i wrote a poem about a turkey they go past my unit late of a evening to nest if they are going to mate they run past together it is hilarious nobody believes me but it is true i go out out wait for them i am
    five floors up people come out to watch me laughing, i remember now celine charcole that is right do you remember her thank god for celine i got some ideas from her

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  • ***** ***** (11/16/2005 6:54:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    If feelings were outlawed (Judge Dredd or otherwise) how on earth would poetry ever exist, Sherrie?

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    • Declan McHenry Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 4:39:00 AM) Post reply

      It would still be there, just with strict forms, lots of dry rhyme and hard rythym. Oh, and draconian penalties for anyone deviating.

    • Herbert Nehrlich1 Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 1:24:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Now children, a sociopath is not a person without feelings.It is not possible to be a sociopath without having/experiencing feelings. As to the world being a better place without feelings, that is pu ... more

    • Alice Vedral Rivera Rookie - 1st Stage (11/16/2005 10:55:00 PM) Post reply

      I seem to be under the impression that people with no feelings = sociopaths and that the only highs/lows they get is from winning/losing at their 'game of manipulation' that can manifest anywhere from ... more

  • ***** ***** (11/16/2005 6:11:00 PM) Post reply | Read 7 replies

    General question:

    Is rating/comment the only reason why people post here? [what about just wanting your feelings to be 'out there'? ]


    (this was asked in an earlier post and I wanted to put it to everyone)

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    • Richard George Rookie - 1st Stage (11/18/2005 1:10:00 AM) Post reply

      For me, it's wanting poems of mine to be 'out there', when there are so few other avenues for publication. Ratings do matter to me though. I haven't had an 'out of ten' for a couple of months now - ju ... more

    • Michael Shepherd Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 6:32:00 AM) Post reply

      Community - I think that for me Declan's hit it. I've just looked up the ecological sense of 'community' -a group of interdependent plants or animals living together. And isn't that the very history o ... more

    • Declan McHenry Rookie - 1st Stage (11/17/2005 3:19:00 AM) Post reply

      Sonja, I guess that depends on whether you mean post poems here or just comments. I get the impression just posting poems on Poemhunter will get you more comments on the subject matter than on the sty ... more

    • Max Reif Rookie - 1st Stage (11/16/2005 8:51:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply


    • Mary Nagy Rookie - 1st Stage (11/16/2005 7:56:00 PM) Post reply

      I don't get mad when somebody gives me a ... more

    • Lori Boulard Rookie - 1st Stage (11/16/2005 6:26:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Hi Sonja. If you mean post to the Forum ... more

    • Herbert Nehrlich1 Rookie - 1st Stage (11/16/2005 6:18:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I think you pose a good question. While ... more

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