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  • (B10Z ) (9/3/2005 1:33:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    hey i just wrote a new poem called Spoken Wind. Check it out and tell me what you think.

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    • Michael Shepherd (9/3/2005 3:58:00 PM) Post reply

      imho: the last four lines could almost be a classical haiku, bringing together the visible and the invisible and the emotions of time. However, I don't get any connection with the first two lines. The ... more

  • Mary Nagy (9/1/2005 4:13:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Not to change the subject......cause I think Allans is an important one, but I just thought I would mention the poet Ernestine Northover. She has been posting over the last few days and she has a very unique, fun style. Of course, she does rhyme (which I prefer) . She deserves a look.

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  • Allan James Saywell (9/1/2005 3:36:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    did i hear right that parts of new orleans is below sea leval i find
    that hard to believe i live near the sea a five story block of units on top
    of the biggest hill in tweed heads, yet only three minutes walking from the sea
    people have always wanted to live as close to the sea as possible in our country
    the sea reclaims land all the time because people just dont realize the danger

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    • Michael Gessner (9/2/2005 9:00:00 PM) Post reply

      What is the elevation, (above sea level) of 'the biggest hill in tweed heads, ' plus the five-story block of units?

  • Michael Shepherd (9/1/2005 1:29:00 PM) Post reply

    Thanks, guys, for the recommendation to Lisel Mueller. If you haven't already - give yourself a treat!

  • Mary Nagy (9/1/2005 12:35:00 PM) Post reply

    I respect your opinion but, I would hope you would also realize that people grieve in different ways. For some (like you perhaps) it may be best to just privately deal with the feelings you may (or may not) have about the situation. I personally feel it's very appropriate for people to write their feelings down about a horrible situation that many people in the world are experiencing and share it with others here....isn't that what poetry is about? I have written 2 poems about the recent situation in the world and I feel they are in no way offensive. I am not glorifying the situation nor am I using it to 'ride the wave' of popularity. I surely don't feel I should apologize for posting on such a topic. These poems are my feelings, my fears, and they are honest, that's all I can give. I don't want this to sound rude because I'm not meaning it that way. I just think when you feel something.......that's when poetry is written best for some. I'm not a big fan of only writing poetry once you've thought it all through and checked all the details and really thought too much about it. I guess everyone is different but I prefer the passion, spontaneity, and raw emotions that are felt 'in the moment'. Whether these poems are viewed as bad or not...they've served their purpose and that is to allow me to share my feelings. I hope you understand how this message was intended... respectfully. Sincerely, Mary

  • Allan James Saywell (9/1/2005 1:06:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    It is a tradgedy Max the people of AUSTRALIA are saddened at the loss of life
    and the loss of the essentials like shelter food water and property i'm
    glad you did the poem it can only make people aware of the thin thread that we tread as human beings and our relationship with mother nature and i
    as a fellow human being offer my heartfelt sorrow for all the people who have suffered

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    • Max Reif (9/1/2005 7:17:00 AM) Post reply

      Yes, Allan. I'm a little silenced by it all now.

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  • Max Reif (8/31/2005 9:24:00 PM) Post reply

    I just posted a poem that has to do with my responses to the hurricane.
    I also noticed (having done a search on the word 'hurricane' earlier) a find poem of Raynette's, entitled 'Night of a Hurricane', posted quite some time ago.

    I know thoughts and prayers are going out from many, from me as well. I hope the poem is not glib. If it is, I'll retract it.

  • Max Reif (8/31/2005 7:37:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Anyone know Lisel Mueller? I was just blown away by 'Monet Refuses The Operation' and 'Immortality'! She has about 17 poems. I hope to read more soon.

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  • Max Reif (8/31/2005 7:06:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Thanks for all the replies.
    Was at Barnes & Noble earlier, to get the Guide To Literary Agents and a cupa coffee. Walked over to look at the Poetry section for a moment. The one that most caught my eye was an anthology called

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  • Max Reif (8/31/2005 9:47:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    Hey guys, I've noticed that I've been missing here!
    You've managed without me, somehow?

    The oddest thing happened: I have to report to my teaching job tomorrow, after a heavenly month of vacation and poetry. I wanted to get a certain prose writing project finished first, and have turned almost wholly to it in the last week.

    It's most interesting! Suddenly I couldn't concentrate on poetry...couldn't read the poetry books I'd been spending 2 or more hours a day with. It may be part burn-out, from absorbing so MUCH poetry, the past month or two. And maybe partly just a conservation of mental resources for the project I'm (because I put myself) under the gun to finish!

    That ever happen to you?

    Anyway, regards from prose-land!
    I should think I'll be around some time soon, though possibly in not as concentrated doses as before.

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (8/31/2005 6:57:00 PM) Post reply

      Don't be so poetic about your absence Max. I was going to write a rhyming poem about you in your absence, sneak it in so to speak, but 'by the time I found a pen, put the pen to paper...' you had re-a ... more

    • Raynette Eitel (8/31/2005 5:30:00 PM) Post reply

      We've missed you, Max. Hope your prose as well as the teaching goes well, but still we need your wisdom and kindness here. Raynette

    • Michael Shepherd (8/31/2005 1:16:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Oh boy - rewrites and footnotes and their indices with 6 co-writers and a co-editor - did I tell you about my breakdown...? Best wishes for fame and immorality, Michael

    • Michael Philips (8/31/2005 11:26:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I'm there right now, Max. I'm in the mid ... more

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