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  • Rookie Michael Philips (7/31/2005 12:34:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply
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    I had a poetry instructor who would take little snippets of poetic ideas and put them into storage. He had little images, lines, even single words, that he wanted to try to use in future poems. Last year, I started doing the same thing. Sometime I'll come back to a little snippet and it will suddenly germinate into a full poem. Others languish for months waiting to see the light.

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    • Rookie Casey Rock (7/31/2005 2:38:00 PM) Post reply

      This is how all of my poems take shape. I am constantly writing down ideas, thoughts, feelings, etc. wherever I am; parked at a red light, eating dinner, at the movies...I try not to let anything slip ... more

  • Rookie Raynette Eitel (7/31/2005 11:37:00 AM) Post reply

    Re: Sherrie's great question: If I am really still and in a post-dream attitude when I first awaken, I find poems are right there up front in my mind. Other times, poems come when I am listening to music or to creative words such as Cole Porter. I just have to go write a poem, even though it probably doesn't have a thing to do with the song just sung. If I ignore my muse, it pouts and doesn't come around for days. I'm not kidding. If I have trouble with a poem, I find it best to leave it and when I return, my muse has written it nicely in my head and it is a 'go.' Most of my writing is on my computer, but when I travel, I take my journal with me for poems that happen.

  • Rookie Gol Mcadam (7/31/2005 11:14:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    RE. SHERRIE'S TOPIC & MAX'S COMMENT. This is interesting. I tend to write initially on paper. The key phrase or the seed of the poem 'hits' me and I go for it - jotting it down and developing it immediately. Then, like Michael, I tend to sleep on it before putting it on the computer. So, the computer is acting as an editing tool. What I have found, and I am trying to get at this in my piece 'Stillborn', is that what hits me is not always what I had initially thought it to be and I find myself unable to articulate the thing. No matter how I try, it just can't be said and the resultant poem is dead on the page. Does everybody have this problem?

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    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (7/31/2005 12:10:00 PM) Post reply

      Yes, Gol, frequently! So I took a tip from the wonderful stone sculptors of Zimbabwe: it's all spirit to them. Sometimes the man's spirit is stronger, the stone must obey him; sometimes he should list ... more

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (7/31/2005 4:55:00 AM) Post reply | Read 7 replies

    New topic if I may. I have been accused of being a re-incarnation of Dr. Seuss by some. Probably should be greatly flattered, but I would like to know what Max, Michael, Raynette, Linda, Allan, Lawrence, Ronberge, Jerry et al. think about his work.
    This foreigner would like to know.
    Thanks in advance

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  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (7/30/2005 10:28:00 AM) Post reply

    I think you've hit the whatsit on the head, Gol and Max. I noticed reading your poem, that the 'shock value' seemed equal to the 'prohibition value'. There maybe something in this re your wife's story, Max - who's saying it?
    I once (as I wrote in a poem) attended an army course with several grunts whose sentences were delayed by using the f-word every other word - noun, verb, adjective, adverb, intensive... it did delay messages (we were in the Signals Corps...)

  • Rookie Angela Hansard (7/30/2005) Post reply | Read 6 replies

    All poets need to remember that kids of all ages are reading this site. They do not need to be reading these vulgar poems. Also remember how would you feel if you knew Jesus was reading these poems? He knows everything that goes on anyway. This site should be kept clean. There are plenty of ways to express yourself without using the words thats being used. Also God has given you your gift to write and he has the power to take it away if not done for his will.
    Remember Jesus loves you and God does to. God answers prayers.

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    • Rookie Max Reif (7/30/2005 10:54:00 AM) Post reply

      Angela, This quote came in one of my daily e-mails today: 'Of all the millions of believers in God perhaps only one makes God a reality, and that is because the picture man makes of God is as limited ... more

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (7/30/2005 3:07:00 AM) Post reply

      Dear Angel: While I agree with you in principle and see no need for profanity in everyday life in normal times and circumstances, it nevertheless was God (and his only son Jesus) who gave us the abi ... more

    • Rookie Jerry Hughes (7/30/2005 1:34:00 AM) Post reply

      Indeed: Jesus loves me, this I know. So does rag-time cowboy, Joe. Ah, well?

    • Rookie Sylvia Spencer (7/30/2005 1:31:00 AM) Post reply

      I am so glad that someone feels the same ... more

    • Rookie Poetry Hound (7/30/2005 12:32:00 AM) Post reply

      With all due respect, Angela, I sincerel ... more

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  • Rookie - 614 Points Jerry Hughes (7/29/2005 2:30:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies


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    • Rookie - 614 Points Poetry Hound (7/29/2005 7:50:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Obvious but essentially correct, Jerry. For a good example of how to use expletives creatively, see Jake Hassler's poem, 'The C-Bomb'

    • Rookie - 614 Points Herbert Nehrlich1 (7/29/2005 3:15:00 AM) Post reply

      Exactement! Look at my poem Clean Language for guidance. Ronberge seems to approve. H

  • Rookie A.p. Sweet (7/28/2005 6:37:00 PM) Post reply

    Has anyone ever listened to Viggo Mortensen (The guy who played Aragorn in the Lord Of The Rings movies) poetry or ever listened to his cd's. If not I recommend getting the Beyond Baroque 2 cd at his website. The cd was put together to raise money for the Venice Arts Center in Venice California. It has some great poets on there including Viggo and Saul Williams.

  • Rookie t. h. ashbury (7/28/2005 10:57:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    hmmmn, i wonder how many of us could be troubled to post poems with 'inappropriate' words in response?

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    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (7/28/2005 11:13:00 AM) Post reply

      Well, I got past months ago with one aimed at the poets themselves... haven't checked if it's still there...

  • Rookie - 0 Points Max Reif (7/28/2005 7:26:00 AM) Post reply


    by Billy Collins

    I ask them to take a poem
    and hold it up to the light
    like a color slide

    or press an ear against its hive.

    I say dropp a mouse into a poem
    and watch him probe his way out,

    or walk inside the poem's room
    and feel the walls for a light switch.

    I want them to waterski
    across the surface of a poem
    waving at the author's name on the shore.

    But all they want to do
    is tie the poem to a chair with rope
    and torture a confession out of it.

    They begin beating it with a hose
    to find out what it really means.

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