Poetics and Poetry Discussion


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  • Linda Preston (4/16/2005 3:45:00 AM) Post reply

    Thanks anyway, Mark. I know you have been interested in Sylvia Plath lately, did you know that one of her big influences was, Theodore Roethke? Ted Hughes, said that in 1959 a turning point was reached in her poetry when she discovered him. She 'realized how he could help her'. She certainly picked up his something -nasty-in-the-greenhouse manner; she, too, could find the creepiness in things. In November of that year she wrote'Mushrooms' -which was filled with menance.

  • Allan James Saywell (4/16/2005 2:42:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    ho hum who really cares about some lenen orinated poet, from the old russia
    how are you little english, and your cronies how are you andrew or mister fry
    or whatever you name is, giving people lectures

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  • ZhaoNian (Michael) Chen (4/15/2005 9:56:00 PM) Post reply

    I came here recently,
    I like this place very much.

  • ***** ***** (4/15/2005 6:46:00 PM) Post reply

    For sure.. this place has become a.. dare I say it.. a place of intelligent discourse... yippee! ! ! And not an expletive or a button stuck on 'cap lock' in sight... oh joy!

  • Linda Preston (4/15/2005 3:54:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Anyone familiar with the work of the Russian poet, Alexander Blok?

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    • Andy Konisberg (4/15/2005 4:53:00 PM) Post reply

      any particular poem you'd like to discuss? It would be interesting...

  • Marlon Marcus (4/15/2005 11:27:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    i want to ask you about poem without you by adrian hendry please give me comments about this poem

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    • ***** ***** (4/15/2005 12:55:00 PM) Post reply

      I believe that the imagery in some of the poem is quite lovely, but some references don't fit with others for me.. the mention of 'Corn Flakes' jars, and 'sausage butties' is flat just after the subli ... more

    • Andy Konisberg (4/15/2005 11:59:00 AM) Post reply

      I like the repetition, I like the playfulness and the meaning behind it, I like the off-beat rhythm of the poem. Personally having already mentioned 'flowers' and 'music' and 'houses' (allbeit public ... more

  • ***** ***** (4/15/2005 10:52:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    I acquired a copy of the newly published 'Ariel - the Restored Edition', with much of her original manuscript scribbles on it - it's fascinating.

    Sx

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    • Poetry Hound (4/15/2005 11:15:00 AM) Post reply

      Good luck understanding her even using Sue's novel white noise idea. Her condition and the language she used were unique to her. Even if you're suffering from similar mental ailments, you might not be ... more

    • Sue Casey (4/15/2005 11:07:00 AM) Post reply

      Now to understand, try to read it as she would have written it. Turn your tv to white noise. Wait until you think you are on the edge of madness and think, just think that maybe it is whispering your ... more

  • ***** ***** (4/15/2005 8:53:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Ah, the VAST difference between prose and poetry. I am trying to embrace the former, but find that the latter just dizzies it up - complicates it, purples it. No matter how much I try to tone down the language I use for prose and for dialogue, the poetic instinct just dogs it and I find I have used too many adjectives, too many colours, too many descriptive references. Is there any exercise to dilute one's writing such that prose doesn't sound like one long complex poem. A poem full of too much metaphor and hidden meaning for a reader to possibly take in without reading it over and over.. Has this message even been clear, I wonder, or have I tried to be poetic with this too...

    (huff) a writer's insecurity is never done... Sx

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    • Michael Shepherd (4/15/2005 9:19:00 AM) Post reply

      I find as a journalist that the PC's word-count is a wonderful tool. Write it as it comes; leave it a day or overnight; take 3/4 of the word-count, say, as your ultimate total; and cut down. After the ... more

  • Michael Witkowski (4/15/2005 5:26:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Please refrain from petty kindergarten squabble and uppercase shouting.
    I

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    • ***** ***** (4/15/2005 6:09:00 AM) Post reply

      Just ignore him.. it's just another of his Tourettic attempts to start a fight in the playground. He must be a lonely man, let's forgive him and move on.

  • Allan James Saywell (4/15/2005 4:39:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    MARK LES MURRY IS AN ARTIST PAINTER, HOW COME YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL WHEN I TICKED ONLY FRIENDS, I GET EMAILS FROM SOME PRETTY SAD PEOPLE
    I WONDER WHAT SORT OF POWER YOU HAVE TO BREAK THE SYSTEM, I DO WANT THE IRISH ONE TO SEND ME ANY EMAILS EITHER, I DID NOT OPEN YOURS BECAUSE YOU RUN WITH ENGLAND YOU DONT RUN WITH THE MAN IN THE TEEPEE, WITH THE PIPE

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    • Andy Konisberg (4/15/2005 7:31:00 AM) Post reply

      However, if your photograph is an indication, you have not been doing any running with anyone (or even by yourself) for a number of years, Allan.

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