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  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (3/27/2005 5:21:00 AM) Post reply

    Well I see no relevance at all.
    Also, would you please keep the x out of your posts, I was so hoping that only people like Sandra and Gypsy would offer them to me.
    No offense.
    Do you write?
    H

  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (3/27/2005 2:57:00 AM) Post reply

    How interesting.
    Is it relevant?
    H

  • Sylvia Spencer (3/27/2005 12:17:00 AM) Post reply

    Dear Gypsy
    I have now read 'Yolanda' what a beautiful poem, I can see where your coming from when your saying favorit poem list, I think I will too. About 'Dogreal' it's a type of poetry that continuesly falls into line with the previous and words can be twisted to suit yourself, which makes it very easy reading. It also has a down side to it. If you fall out of text then the whole poem that you are writing crashes. Then your forever rubbing out to make the lines suit
    So therefore it may take a bit longer to write. I have used this type of writing for years. I dont think critic's like it, mainly the ones that don't write themselves. I can tell you about one critic who never ever put pen to paper, and this is what he said about my poem 'It's ok but 'Tennison' Would roll in his grave if he read it' and then he said ' it's the only poem that he has ever read, that reads to this secqence, DER, DA, DER, DA
    DER, DAR, DAR, DAR, DAR! Then I replied 'well perhaps I should become a song writer instead and join the list of the elite! I do enjoy all poetry including
    classic.

  • Scarborough Gypsy (3/26/2005 10:11:00 PM) Post reply

    Hi Sylvia,

    Thank you for your reply. I would like to know more about this form of poetry you mention “Dogreal”. Is that an actual term/form? I have not heard of this before.

    I have not read Herbert’s “Big Aunt” poem but I am going to take a look now. My favourite poem of Herbert’s so far is “Yolanda”. I just love that one, which reminds me I must add it to “my favourite” list.

    Talk soon
    XX
    SG

  • Scarborough Gypsy (3/26/2005 10:07:00 PM) Post reply

    Herbert,
    I don’t understand why you said “There isn't much one can do to increase one's 'talent' for writing good poetry”? Surely, there are lots of things a poet can do to improve their work. Such as life experiences, vocabulary, reading etc. etc Your thoughts please sir?

    Secret Squirrel
    SG

  • Scarborough Gypsy (3/26/2005 10:02:00 PM) Post reply

    Dear Anne,

    I was also sad to read your comments. As I have said to Herbert, please don’t give up on this site and don’t leave. In fact, I will publicly ask all who are reading this the same. Let’s make this better not worse (by leaving) .

    Anne, I have not read any of your work yet but I would like to and would also be more than happy to confer with you. If you have read my previous comments on this forum, you will see that I too am here for the same reasons as yourself and the majority of PH’s members no doubt.

    There are lots of good, nice people on here. I have met lots in just one week.

    So don’t go just yet. Stick around and see what transpires.

    Yours truly,
    SG

  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (3/26/2005 9:40:00 PM) Post reply

    And to add to this it may be worth mentioning that Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Friedrich Schiller were friends who represented what you tried to express about poets and what they should be.

    But then again, both were poets that none on this site could come near within a light year or two.
    They were also both people who cherished individual values such as integrity and both saw being 'a good person' above all as a crucial goal in life.

    There isn't much one can do to increase one's 'talent' for writing good poetry, but the other side of the coin could be crying out for a deep cleaning and a good polish.

    H

  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (3/26/2005 9:07:00 PM) Post reply

    Anne, I am sorry to hear about your experience although I must admit I don't quite follow what happened.
    I have long toyed with the idea and am still undecided about leaving this site because of the presence of elements I would not give the time of day to.

    This, of course is not helped by the pathetic attitude expressed in the comments of such persons as poetryhound. I would have thought that people could discipline themselves enough to avoid putting fuel on the fire.

    I would encourage you to stick around a while, perhaps it will get better.
    Best wishes,
    Herbert

  • louis sacre croix (3/26/2005 8:12:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    There was a delet message beside my first message. I did that.
    I guess that was the not welcome sign from the regulars.
    As I said I do not care about the ratings, sadly I do care about being made to feel unwelcome in a place I thought I would be welcomed by mentors and friends.

    Poets are supposed to be intelligent and open minded. Here I have found children playing cruel games on one another and one or two solid poets and a friend.
    I wish I had found more of the latter.
    My aim was to improve my work and have some great discussions.
    I would have offered similar.

    I obviously need to find another site.
    Once I have, I will transfer my poetry.
    God speed to those who care for poetry.
    Have fun to those who just play games.
    With regrets

    Anne

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  • Sylvia Spencer (3/26/2005 9:29:00 AM) Post reply

    Dear Gypsy
    Im'e glad you enjoyed the poem, I just love writing (Dogreal) a sort of poetry where the pen flows the wrong way from classical. Many critics don't like it, especial those that dont write themselves. Have you read Herberts big aunt poem, it's ACE, CHEERS S

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