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  • Freshman - 544 Points Adam M. Snow (10/8/2014 4:03:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies
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    Well, I just got an email from Poemhunter. They removed one of my forum post after explaining to me that it was deemed offensive and hostile. This is that post.

    " There's nothing wrong with having faith and believing in God and there's nothing childish about it, it just shows that I'm human and that I have freewill to believe in what I want to believe and who I want to believe in. There's nothing immature about it. What's immature is telling someone to grow up or pretty much telling them to give up on their faith. You said, " Do you see him when children are raped and beheaded?" God gave man freewill, but man has chosen to abuse it. God gave man freewill so they can choose for themselves to call on God with true feelings. So when a child is raped or beheaded, it's because man has chosen to do so out of freewill. So God isn't to blame, but man. God didn't force man to do harm to children, man knew exactly what they were doing. And about the blacks suffering in Africa. Did you know that there are over 5000 Christian organizations that are designed to help with people all around the world. They help bring clothes to the clothesless, they bring food to the hungry. There's organizations that are building homes for the homeless all around the world. God is answering people's prayers through those organizations. But most of these organizations are made up donations only. You see, we (man) has spent trillions of dollars all on war on both sides. The money used for war is more than enough to stop world hunger, but man has chosen to use that money for bloodshed. Again freewill. Man choose to waste away money on bloodshed then to help those in need. God is not to blame, but man. Man is who is destroying this world, not God. Yet man keeps blaming God for everything. The truth is, the fault is on us, man."

    Do you find anything offensive or hostile in this post?

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    • Freshman - 544 Points Gulsher John (10/8/2014 9:07:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Oh Mr Adam, grow up, what you've phrased is nothing but all your fancies.It's full of contradictions, if god is such (as u said) , then he is just a spectator in this cosmic play, then what is his or ... more

    • Freshman - 544 Points Mike Acker (10/8/2014 5:29:00 PM) Post reply

      I am the kind of person who may disagree with you about belief in god, but would always do all I can to help you get to your place of worship, even if I had to carry you there myself. I believe fully ... more

    • Freshman - 544 Points John Westlake (10/8/2014 4:42:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Nothing at all.

  • Rookie - 136 Points Professor Plum (10/8/2014 3:59:00 PM) Post reply | Read 5 replies

    Thank you all for your very warm welcome.

    We are working together with the " FPI" to help stop what is referred to as the forum mafia. Second rate, failed poets tend to inhabit poetry forums, that they slowly and in calculating ways cultivate into their own mafia domains. These forum rooms, or dens as they are sometimes called become like a private residence to some of these criminal-types.

    One will usually rise to the top as their leader. He will be referred to as the Big Bird, The Mule or due to his habit of cutting off ears of subjects he writes poetry for, Driver of Ears from city city.

    There will also be the cheap dame in the mix. Often this role is filled by a failed stripper, usually from the southern parts of the US and in particular the south west. Boasting a good education along with future plans to complete a degree in some exotic field such as Industrial Exploitative Psycho-Analysis and or other mumbo jumbo fields. Due to her background as a daughter of a physically and sexually abusive father, she will find herself forever baiting and then biting(bait then bite syndrome) men she see as the father she was never able to stand up to, hence the name " female bitch" or " streaker" commonly used to describe her. She will go so far as streak during major events only to turn around and with her team of " ex- ambulance chaser" lawyers, sue each individual spectator for indecent viewing. Some balls, huh? These cases often come to an immediate halt once the judges have seen her physically.

    Hanging around the Big Bird and the failed stripper will be the usual effeminate characters who will refer to themselves as the village moron, class clown with such names as Professor Plum, Doggy Dog, DashDoggone, Sean North and of course Sean South, etc.

    Oftentimes these poetry forum mafiosos will claim to have a faith of some kind like all being born-again christians. The easy test is usually to read their poetry. Lacking in originality, they will attempt to duplicate the works of Auden and the rest of the so-called classical poets to achieve an air of respectability so as not to be exposed for what they really are: pathetic, failed poets. Of course, although I profess to be of no faith, in other words a true humanist, I want nothing more than to save their soul for no particular reason.

    We will keep you informed of any progress made. Keep in mind that they will attempt to silence anyone helping with this investigation bu threatening them with isolation or what is referred to in high school circles ad " giving the cold shoulder" . If you have any information that may assist us in locating and prosecuting these villains, please contact Professor Dum through the private messaging feature at this site.

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    • Rookie - 136 Points Mike Acker (10/9/2014 10:00:00 PM) Post reply

      I think Plum, the real Plum(above) is very funny. Talk about a great sense of humor!

    • Rookie - 136 Points Professor Plum (10/9/2014 3:45:00 PM) Post reply

      Not me people. Acker's at it again. Just check out my comments, they go back years. This other clown has 2 pages. I thought Acker had grown up, but he's still the child he's always been.

    • Rookie - 136 Points Gulsher John (10/8/2014 9:27:00 PM) Post reply

      hahaha Professor You've already done the business, disclosed everything, their hideouts, plans, motives etc, you'r Sherlock Holme. geez...

    • Rookie - 136 Points Professor Plum (10/8/2014 9:02:00 PM) Post reply

      Yes, please call on me too. I'm willing ... more

    • Rookie - 136 Points Mike Acker (10/8/2014 6:18:00 PM) Post reply

      Wow, that sounds serious. I would like ... more

  • Rookie - 629 Points Jefferson Carter (10/8/2014 11:17:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    A couple of points: Lamont, you mule, drop the Tony Miller persona. it's not helpful. You're also being a hypocrite and liar, saying you don't use pseudonyms.

    Here's John Westlake: " If people do not write they will not get better. That is why they came here, to become better writers. You and you friend acker spouting acid into their beliefs are not helping. If anything you are causing depression to some. Your rubbish does not work on me though. Your clear attacks on me merely show stupidity. Practice what you preach and maybe, just maybe you will get respect."

    John, you silly-billy, our bad poets will never improve by writing the same swill over and over again. They MIGHT improve if they stopped writing and started reading the best contemporary poets, maybe take a poetry writing class or join a community workshop, you know, work HARD at improving. The main issue is they don't want criticism of any kind, harsh or gentle. They want praise, nothing more.

    I don't feel I'm attacking you. I'm only saying you're enabling our bad poets to keep writing bad poetry. Practice what I preach?I do, I work hard on my own poetry. I appreciate thoughtful, even harsh critiques. And as far as respect goes, the only respect I care about is from people I respect.

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    • Rookie - 629 Points John Westlake (10/8/2014 5:40:00 PM) Post reply

      Fair enough. Just to confirm what you may already know, I am me and me alone. I have never tried to do personae and will not start now. It's not my way. I am Profanisaurus and I will probably alwa ... more

  • Rookie - 470 Points delilah contrapunctal (10/7/2014 9:48:00 PM) Post reply

    having just re-read Eliot's Burnt Norton I am delighted with his use of language and clarity of thought....music indeed, to me....

  • Veteran Poet - 1,628 Points Mike Acker (10/7/2014 9:09:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    JC, I wecommend you throw Westlake onto the fwoow

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  • Rookie - 629 Points Jefferson Carter (10/7/2014 4:44:00 PM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    John Westlake, re: your comments below, there is nothing slanderous about giving an educated opinion about bad poetry. And why would I have to be " brave" to tell you, face-to-face, what I think about you? Are you going to hurt me with your mean words?

    You are an enabler, encouraging awful poets to keep cranking out awful poems. You should be ashamed of yourself. You should be encouraging these word-wankers to stop writing and to start reading and studying, working hard to improve. Someone has to.

    " Mr Carter Please stay your slanderous hands. I believe you are being most unfair. Whatever problem you have with me should not be displayed here. If you're not brave enough to say it face to, then keep it to yourself."

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    • Rookie - 629 Points Jacqueline Nash (10/8/2014 8:38:00 AM) Post reply

      The problem is, if people only leave positive comments on what are obviously really awful poems, how are the writers of those poems going to learn anything. They will just continue to write badly.

    • Rookie - 629 Points Professor Plum (10/8/2014 12:18:00 AM) Post reply

      lets all pray for his soul- you and i and prof plum and monty the mule and sherrie

    • Rookie - 629 Points John Westlake (10/7/2014 11:37:00 PM) Post reply

      If people do not write they will not get better. That is why they came here, to become better writers. You and you friend acker spouting acid into their beliefs are not helping. If anything you are ... more

    • Rookie - 629 Points John Westlake (10/7/2014 10:57:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Educated opinion?? Let me know when you ... more

  • Rookie - 136 Points Professor Plum (10/7/2014 3:47:00 PM) Post reply | Read 6 replies

    This was so good, that at first I thought I had found a lost Ted Hughes tribute to Sylvia Plath. Then after the fist line, it became clear that it was actually written by an ex-guard at Dachau to his mexican bride(as the war was nearing the end and he had to flee to somewhere) . Enjoy! !

    Für mein Sherrie, mein Dora

    I could not have written this Surrealistic poem to anyone but you, but you still may not like it much. Dora Maar may not have wanted to have her portrait done as a Cubist, Guernica-infused Weeping Woman, but she loved the guy, you know?


    There is a chocolate fondue fountain into
    which lovers could dip marshmallows, black-
    berries, or lovers, understanding that
    love, perfect undipped love
    can be metaphysical, should be;
    I will have it surreal, and love you
    as I am now, as I wish to perceive you,
    mindful, body-full, and full.
    It’s potent and paradoxical, like
    dreams of wizards or flying fish or
    looking at a sunrise in our windshield and not
    talking about fire.
    Only with you can I see these things
    with such clarity that they blind us
    and fill us with understanding.

    I will blaze unchocolated through your world, through
    you into mine and together,
    remembering a time unreal and true,
    long ago and never, when
    we would see fish in the clouds,
    I would become your wizard forever
    and we’d walk past the unvisited section
    of the ancient bookstore, past
    an unopened copy of
    Liebe ist ein Hund von der Hölle
    and remark with pure pleasure
    that had he lived, Freud
    could have read Bukowski.

    By Ben Cassel

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  • Veteran Poet - 1,628 Points Mike Acker (10/7/2014 2:42:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply


    Figures dance in shadows
    against the silk screen. Some charge, chase,
    and chivy. Others are felled, fleeced and flitched.

    What awaits?
    Is it the figurines, or merely
    the silhouettes against the shrewd silk?

    Mike Acker

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  • Gold Star - 15,007 Points Mohammad Skati (10/7/2014 1:16:00 PM) Post reply

    Smiles have different shapes, but They are all smiles anytime like our Our happiness and our sadness... A smile is the whole shapes' monopoly Simply because our faces must see it...

  • Rookie - 629 Points Jefferson Carter (10/7/2014 1:13:00 PM) Post reply

    Adam, your newest poem is pretty awful! ! I'll be as gentle as I can be since I'm assuming you're a real person and not a pseudonym deliberately peening bad verse. Your basic usage errors, your inept handling of meter, your silly mix of thous and thees, bad, bad, bad! ! The line below pretty much exemplifies what's wrong with the entire piece:

    " with beauty so awe it beknownst my fate."

    Awe?A noun when the adjective is needed?Beknownst?What is this?A misspelling of a 19th century poetic affectation?My fate as the direct object of beknownst?Wrong, wrong, wrong!

    For your own good, Adam, stop " wrtiting" ! ! Start studying decent contemporary poets. Puhleeze! ! !

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