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  • Herbert Guitang (5/1/2014 8:28:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    I've enjoyed and learned all the poems I've read in Poemhunter. The poems are very meaningful. The Poets are very supportive reading my poems.

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    • Mike Acker (5/1/2014 10:55:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Herbert, you may already know this, Sir Zvavanhuvevhu is no other than Angie Gunel, a regular on the Poetics and Poetry Discussion Forum. I find what she is doing a bit racist with the language she i ... more


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  • Mike Acker (4/30/2014 7:58:00 PM) Post reply | Read 7 replies

    Lamont Palmer is a sneaky little snake. The discussion with JC was about Lamont Palmer, since 1902, talking about metered poetry. JC has beyond any shadow of doubt proven that Lamont Palmer knows nothing about metered writing.

    Then instead of admitting to this, Lamont Palmer simply says, well we just agree to disagree! His female canines then join in like morons and repeat the same thing: Jefferson and Lamont Palmer have different styles. Now, let's all go and dance like fools. JC and Palmer didn't disagree, Lamont Palmer was wrong, period.

    This is no different than the argument the creationist morons use when confronted by evolutionists. Oh well, they say, we just agree to disagree, while half of the audience then claps(the moron half) . Evolutionists and creationists don't disagree. The moron creationists believe that dinosaurs lived alongside man. This is not only moronic, based on the evidence, but they go so far as to establish exhibitions in which they show men feeding dinosaurs bunches of grass. There is no disagreement. The evolutionists are right and the moronic creationists are wrong.

    It is very possible that Palmer carries this moronic thinking from his personal religious beliefs into the realm of poetry. When you are wrong you just say we agree to disagree, with the help of other morons like Rizzi, Peter Stavros et al.

    So how could JC and Palmer disagree if one is right, Lamont Palmer doesn't know his meter basics and JC proved that using Palmer's own poems, ones he is most proud of at that!

    SORRY, MEANT TO ADD THAT THE ABOVE IS NOT PERSONAL!

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    • Alice Vedral Rivera (5/3/2014 11:26:00 AM) Post reply

      If I could post the link here, I would. Secrets of the Dead program - latest anthropological discovery (scientists trying to find Darwin's 'missing link') using carbon dating and DNA testing found t ... more

    • Mike Acker (5/1/2014 11:23:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      People have a right to believe what they like. I have a right to calll someone who believes dinosaurs roamed the earth during the same time as human beings did, a moron. Give me an example of scient ... more

    • Alice Vedral Rivera (5/1/2014 10:41:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      FYI Mike, you need to research some of the newest anthropological discoveries that are beginning to challenge Darwin's 'Theory' of Evolution as it relates to man evolving from apes.

    • Alexander Rizzo (4/30/2014 10:17:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      no its not personal. its not intelligent ... more

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    • Mike Acker (4/30/2014 9:23:00 PM) Post reply

      You're the other snake on here, Peter St ... more

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  • Mike Acker (4/30/2014 5:20:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    The time stamp doesn't work for you, Angie. It is like you've gone crazy!

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  • Mike Acker (4/30/2014 5:05:00 PM) Post reply

    what are you doing Angie?

  • Jefferson Carter (4/30/2014 1:22:00 PM) Post reply

    Lamont, I'm a little disappointed I had to be the one to elucidate your poetic " technique, " but my analysis seems valid. I'm thrilled you won't be using the term METER or GHOST OF A METER or METERED TONE anymore when discussing your own work since you have no idea what the term means.

    Repetition of certain words, " elevated" diction (using a three-syllable word where one will do) , quite a bit of iambic rhythm (which is nothing rare—if you listen to people speaking, the iambic rhythm predominates, probably because English uses so many prepositions) , and extreme figures of speech, that's what your technique boils down to?It's not the " music" that makes a Lamont poem then; it's the often overwrought metaphors and similes and the maladroit diction. Got you. Now don't go posting another comment I made praising one of your poems years ago. So you wrote a pretty good poem?Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  • Ella Yaron (4/30/2014 1:15:00 PM) Post reply

    I just read 'Baby Song' by Thom Gunn. I found it quite evocative; illustrating a young baby's perspective on leaving the safe refuge of his mother's womb and entering the harsh world of reality, forcing upon him awareness of the fact that he is no longer unified with his mother as one entity.

    Here's the poem:

    From the private ease of Mother's womb
    I fall into the lighted room.

    Why don't they simply put me back
    Where it is warm amd wet and black?

    But one thing follows on another.
    Things were different inside Mother.

    Padded and jolly I would ride
    The perfect comfort of her inside.

    They tuck me in a rustling bed

    - I lie there, raging, small, and red.

    I may sleep soon, I may forget,
    But I won't forget that I regret.

    A rain of blood poured round her womb,
    But all time roars outside this room.

  • Yash Shinde (4/30/2014 8:50:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Dear honest critics, I seek your reviews on this one.....

    ##To bosom thee.....I'll Rise...##..

    He was before his beloved,
    Kneeling on his thighs……..
    His shoulders down,
    With soulful cries…….

    Slid down his cheeks, like shiny pearls,
    The tears that his doleful eyes did shed….
    Was held in them a vision of his mistress,
    Who lied helpless in her cold deathbed….

    Bowing his head, lifting hands in plea,
    Breaking the silence, quoth he-

    ____”Once bound with the essence of thee
    ____I now wash the coast like a restless sea”
    ____”Powered by love my heart did bore,
    ____I’ll trace your impressions on the sandy shore….”

    ____”Turning stones time does flow,
    ____a model of valor, should you lie so low?”
    ____”your mellow fragrance in the darkness behind,
    ____tell me my precious, where will I find?”

    She raised her eyes, deep as a sea,
    In a soothing voice, quoth she-

    ____”See the alluring florets of rose that,
    ____bloom opening their carmine lips, ”
    ____”With a mellow scent, they invite,
    ____butterflies to deliver a kiss…..”

    ____”In blossom of rose you shall see me,
    ____that blooms with the kiss of thee..”
    ____”Amongst trodden hopes and dismal cries,
    ____like the sun of hope I will rise! ”

    ____”Thus like a rose dwelling
    ____in the eyes of thee”
    ____”In curls of petals,
    ____You shall find me…”

    With his blood hitting his veins like an edgy sea,
    In a painful voice quoth he-

    ____”Every blossom does wither with time,
    ____every Bonnie creation someday declines.”
    ____”In the withered remnants dispelled behind
    ____ tell me my love where would I find?”

    Wiping the tears his had shed.
    With calmness of a sage, his beloved said-

    ____”If you wash the shore like a restless sea.
    ____in spiriting rivers you shall find me..”
    ____”Which through meandering turns do make their course,
    ____and cut through boulders to reach their source…”

    ____”Like a river unifying with salinity of the sea,
    ____I lose my soul, and ally with thee..”

    ____”If like a graceful dove you’ll appraise the sky, ____
    ____like a breeze from the surface, I’ll rise” ____
    ____”Like a phoenix that rises from ashes to life, ____
    ____to wipe your tears from dust I’ll rise”____
    ____”Like an angel that dwells in heavenly paradise, ____
    ____to empower the oceanic tides, like moon I’ll rise”____
    ____”In my portrait I’ll live that dwells in your eyne,
    ____Like a fragrance that scents I’ll rise” ____

    - - -”Search me not the remnants behind,
    - - -But in the stillness of your soul, me you’ll find”
    - - -Mortals do vanish, true love never dies…
    - - -To bosom thee, from dead I’ll rise….

    ______________________

    The pearls slid smoothly over his facial curls,
    And wet the still heart that bore his name…
    The silent heart of a sacred soul,
    Dipped in the bloody tears, pious it became……


    Copyright © Yash Shinde 2014

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    • Mike Acker (4/30/2014 11:38:00 AM) Post reply

      Parts of this are fantastic, especially if English is not your mother tongue.

  • Yash Shinde (4/30/2014 8:42:00 AM) Post reply

    Dear honest critics, I seek your reviews on this one.....

    ##To bosom thee.....I'll Rise...##..

    He was before his beloved,
    Kneeling on his thighs……..
    His shoulders down,
    With soulful cries…….

    Slid down his cheeks, like shiny pearls,
    The tears that his doleful eyes did shed….
    Was held in them a vision of his mistress,
    Who lied helpless in her cold deathbed….

    Bowing his head, lifting hands in plea,
    Breaking the silence, quoth he-

    ____”Once bound with the essence of thee
    ____I now wash the coast like a restless sea”
    ____”Powered by love my heart did bore,
    ____I’ll trace your impressions on the sandy shore….”

    ____”Turning stones time does flow,
    ____a model of valor, should you lie so low?”
    ____”your mellow fragrance in the darkness behind,
    ____tell me my precious, where will I find?”

    She raised her eyes, deep as a sea,
    In a soothing voice, quoth she-

    ____”See the alluring florets of rose that,
    ____bloom opening their carmine lips, ”
    ____”With a mellow scent, they invite,
    ____butterflies to deliver a kiss…..”

    ____”In blossom of rose you shall see me,
    ____that blooms with the kiss of thee..”
    ____”Amongst trodden hopes and dismal cries,
    ____like the sun of hope I will rise! ”

    ____”Thus like a rose dwelling
    ____in the eyes of thee”
    ____”In curls of petals,
    ____You shall find me…”

    With his blood hitting his veins like an edgy sea,
    In a painful voice quoth he-

    ____”Every blossom does wither with time,
    ____every Bonnie creation someday declines.”
    ____”In the withered remnants dispelled behind
    ____ tell me my love where would I find?”

    Wiping the tears his had shed.
    With calmness of a sage, his beloved said-

    ____”If you wash the shore like a restless sea.
    ____in spiriting rivers you shall find me..”
    ____”Which through meandering turns do make their course,
    ____and cut through boulders to reach their source…”

    ____”Like a river unifying with salinity of the sea,
    ____I lose my soul, and ally with thee..”

    ____”If like a graceful dove you’ll appraise the sky, ____
    ____like a breeze from the surface, I’ll rise” ____
    ____”Like a phoenix that rises from ashes to life, ____
    ____to wipe your tears from dust I’ll rise”____
    ____”Like an angel that dwells in heavenly paradise, ____
    ____to empower the oceanic tides, like moon I’ll rise”____
    ____”In my portrait I’ll live that dwells in your eyne,
    ____Like a fragrance that scents I’ll rise” ____

    - - -”Search me not the remnants behind,
    - - -But in the stillness of your soul, me you’ll find”
    - - -Mortals do vanish, true love never dies…
    - - -To bosom thee, from dead I’ll rise….

    ______________________

    The pearls slid smoothly over his facial curls,
    And wet the still heart that bore his name…
    The silent heart of a sacred soul,
    Dipped in the bloody tears, pious it became……


    Copyright © Yash Shinde 2014

  • Shahen Pardiwala (4/30/2014 5:13:00 AM) Post reply

    recently, i read a poem by robert frost named Mending wall. it is a very beautifully explained poem. However, the poem isn't as relative to todays scenario than it was a century ago. however, i am not able to find the other poems of robert frost.

  • Mary Amrutha (4/29/2014 10:59:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    WHAT is happening here i can't post any of my poems.... some kinda error

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