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Jefferson Carter Jefferson Carter Male, 91, United States (6/4/2014 10:47:00 AM)

Guys (and gals) , I know my comment about Maya being a mean drunk was possibly mean; she did have a hellish childhood and was damaged in many ways. I really don't give much weight to a poet's biography though when I read her poems. If they're not very good, they're not very good, and her past pain doesn't change that. I don't want to add to the world's meanness, but I truly despise the media's shoveling horsesh*t about a celebrity they've helped create. She wasn't a saint. She was a damaged, mildly talented poet (haven't read her prose) who became an inspiring role model for many. RIP.

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  • Freshman - 1,226 Points Professor Plum (6/4/2014 3:19:00 PM) Post reply
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    I agree.

  • Rookie - 774 Points Lamont Palmer (6/4/2014 1:51:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    I suppose its safe to say no one's a saint?The media likes to create myths around our cultural icons. Frost being a 'nice, country bumpkin who just happened to write poetry' was another myth. We all have our skeletons, and aspects of our personalities which we don't choose to share with the world. (For all I know, Maya's drinking may have been discussed in her memoirs) . That just makes us human, and, in my opinion, far more interesting. In Maya's case, I'm willing to bet that her 'mean drunk' days had long since been put behind her, sounding more like a youthful or middleaged problem, before she became the celeb she was in the last 25 years. Actually she probably was a much better actress, memoirist and performance artist than she was an actual poet. If she had written truly great poetry, ironically, she wouldn't have been half as famous. -LP

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    • Rookie - 774 Points Alexander Rizzo (6/5/2014 12:36:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      you and carter stop hammering on poor maya; anyone who brings some attention to poetry has done a good thing, capiche

    • Rookie - 774 Points Jefferson Carter (6/4/2014 4:51:00 PM) Post reply

      Lamont, I think the drinking was still going on when she died. My source said she was the worst writer he ever had to deal with. For once though, I agree with you and your last sentence. Try posting t ... more

    • Rookie - 774 Points Professor Plum (6/4/2014 3:19:00 PM) Post reply


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