Treasure Island

Gulsher john


Scripture vs. Culture


A fascinating idea to define
Divinity in terms of humanity
-Either by Scriptural songs
Or in scientific norms-


Religions are cultures` repetition,
Veiled in divine sensation
Graciously it shapes and retains
The life`s string,
From Indus to Nile and from Euphrates to Olympus.
For ages it blessed
this savage world
with guidance, morality and compassion
And consolations for horrid temptations.


Scriptures though sacred and sublime
surely Yielded from ancients norms
and from old cultural rhymes.
A highly effected mechanism
That Synchronized and structured
Our dreams and visions,
And yielded
Rituals around such feelings
Having the power of healing.

Neither hell nor heavens,
Nor mysteries nor surmise, b
Armageddon nor doomsday
But all fancies and scribbles
that fret if play.

Submitted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Edited: Wednesday, July 17, 2013

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inspired from a lecture of Alain de botton at TED.......
Redefined relgion and divinity.
Religion is not something that has to be divine....
our culture is a big source of such moral inspiration that sync our life with our ideals.

you are welcome to argue.........

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  • Shahzia Batool (4/6/2013 5:49:00 PM)

    Gulsher john...most of your write ups are based on greek& roman mythology...my suggestion to you is to stay away from such pagan themes...as you have the quality that whatever you receive as a reader or a listener...you trasform the received information into your own composed poems...n you conceive n compose in your own original style...so this poem carries what you received n not what you think is right...why is there any need to redefine the concept of divinity...? I dont agree... (Report) Reply

  • Kevin Patrick (4/2/2013 10:30:00 AM)

    I found the message slightly elusive when I read it the first time, but rereading it a second and third time I am beginning to see the message that you are crafting, It does create a good debate, religion itself was an entity that provided comfort to people before the age of technological enlightenment and scientific discovery, it helped create social paradigms that are still in place today as our normative behavior. I suggest look at scriptures from the context from when they were written, understand the simple morality they were attempting to explain. Very brave to post this some people will be slightly scared of the ideas you post, but it is worth the read and a need to challenge preconceived notions of destiny. (Report) Reply

  • Unwritten Soul (3/28/2013 12:50:00 PM)

    No matter what shape of container, we only need it to hold and keep something
    No matter what saying, if your mind only for display not to open, it never meant for a thought_SOul (Report) Reply

  • Valsa George (3/27/2013 7:33:00 AM)

    I don't intend to enter into a debate, but I do strongly believe that there is a master brain behind everything that exists. If there is an effect, there must be a cause. Our universe moves along a perfectly designed course. Nothing so perfectly designed can just come into existence through sheer chance. As Science advances, we come to realize that even those that appear so simple are in fact so complicated! Of course scriptures must have been modified by cultures, but we can never say that scriptures evolved from cultures. With Bright Morn, I too disagree with your thoughts, but do applaud the quality of your poem. (Report) Reply

  • Bright Morn (3/27/2013 4:31:00 AM)

    As for as the thought is concerned we can never agree on this i do belive that religions are divine and cultures are effected and even created by them but still its a very different idea to write about this thing. I am already impressed by Gulsher John though not agreeing with his thoughts: -) : -) the poem is superb. Thanks for sharing (Report) Reply

  • Bright Morn (3/27/2013 4:29:00 AM)

    As for as the thought is concerned we can never agree on this i do belive that religions are divine and cultures are effected and even created by them but still its a very different idea to write about this thing. I am already impressed by Gulsher John though not agreeing with his thoughts: -) : -) the poem is superb. Thanks for sharing (Report) Reply

  • S.zaynub Kamoonpuri (3/25/2013 11:48:00 PM)

    Hmm as a believer i tink religion is frm God, and cultural practises get into it n people practice religion acordin to culture. Hey n d mention of Euphrates adds to d poem's superb literary effort for me as i hav just been there. Pls do coment on my poem too. (Report) Reply

  • Tajudeen Shah (3/25/2013 10:27:00 PM)

    Civilizations are bound by Revelations,
    Unbounded are prophets and immense prophecies,
    All meant to refine the most blessed creation; Man,
    Ages have trodden over generations,
    Still He remains the same Savage at hearts
    Save a very few who has ever attempted
    To explore the very SELF; that only drives
    The excavator ferret out hidden, shining Absolute!
    GulJohn's thought waves are a set of blessed ones,
    That causes him to contemplate profoundly;
    Rather his zest in pursuit of refined realities
    Of human nature, soul is laudable in all the sense. God bless. (Report) Reply

  • Anthony Di''anno (3/25/2013 1:24:00 PM)

    I feel that humans are divine beings who have forgotten or refuse to accept their divinity. Religion seems to be an alien concept based on human culture. Used by some as a means to attempt an understanding of their reason for being here. Used by far more as a tool/means of controlling the disenchanted and gullible. Human beings have long sought purity and love. They look everywhere they can outside of themselves and never think to look inside of themselves. They seek out teachers who will unlock the mystery of their heart's. Yet they are all teachers and their cultures have always been driven by their innate urge to explore and explain. So much of their ancient knowledge has been destroyed and suppressed in order to keep them running in circles. One day human beings will come to understand that they have no need to search for love and purity. Instead they will embrace the simple truth that is, they are love and purity. Had their cultures been allowed to evolve unimpeded they would already know this.
    Thank you for such a thought provoking write. (Report) Reply

  • Valerie Dohren (3/25/2013 10:03:00 AM)

    Certainly thought-provoking. Religion has provided moral guidance, but it is also responsible for a great deal of strife and dissention. (Report) Reply

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