Conversation With Lord Krishna - Vii (Fiction) Poem by Varanasi Ramabrahmam

I: You said that if we desire intensely and are in the spiritual path sincerely, God showers His Grace and takes us into His fold. But observation of me and others is also that God is sometimes partial in showering His Grace and does it selectively. Some devotees are pampered and also are dealt with special care and some others are tested and not cared for despite their sincere prayers and genuine devotion.

Lord Krishna: Yes I too am aware of two ways of Lord’s attention for His devotees. The two ways are known as ‘maarjaala kisora nyaayam’ and ‘kapi kisora nyaayam’.

In ‘maarjaala kisora nyaayam’ Lord takes care of the devotees as mother Cat takes care of its off spring. The Lord Himself on His own completely graces and guides them even before they make efforts to reach God. Such concern is shown in initiating and sustaining His love and affection for them.

In ‘kapi kisora nyaayam’, the devotees cling and clutch to the Lord as the monkey infant clings and clutches its mother monkey firmly and strongly and the mother monkey appears indifferent to and unmindful of the infant and jumps from one branch to another with utter disregard for the safety of the off spring. The off spring alone appears concerned and the mother monkey not at all.

But these are only two different ways and the Lord is equally compassionate and merciful. Devotees are made to always think of Him in both the processes. Apparent indifference in the second case is sport of the Lord.

I: You said You are Omniscient, are You adept in sciences, arts, skills, languages and fine arts?

Lord Krishna: Yes. From Me only all these have originated and will dissolve in me only at pralayam.

I: What is pralayam?

Lord Krishna: The mental phase or state when all mental functions in the form of experiences, understanding, moods, intuitions, urges, senses, meanings, thoughts, feelings, perceptions, knowing, learning, teaching, communicating, cease to be. The phase of Brahman or Atman experiencing bliss, peace and silence is the state of pralayam.

I: So pralayam is not the time when all the universe is inundated with water and You alone remain on Adisesha in yoga nidra.

Lord Krishna: Yes. In the word yoga nidra, yoga means of union; union of ego, self-consciousness, possessed by individuals with Me and nidra means cessation of all the mental activities.

I am the source, sustainer and dissolver of mind, its functions and the projections it creates of the external and internal world as knowing, perception, logic, reasoning, experience, understanding, insight, mood, urge, intuition, volition, language capabilities, secular and subject knowledge and skills and their performance.

I: I know that music is flow of harmonious sounds in the form of tunes; language and literature as flow of sense and meaning; social sciences and physical sciences as flow of concepts, ideas, expressing and leading to understanding and insight; philosophy as flow of experience. What is spirituality?

Lord Krishna: Spirituality is flow of peace, bliss, silence, unalloyed love for the Lord releasing one from bonds and makes one liberated, independent and free from unnecessary disturbing feelings, thinking, and helps in efficiently performing one’s duties in worldly activities.

I: Both sinners and righteous people seek Your help, to whom You respond?

Lord Krishna: I respond to everyone. I will see to it that justice and truth prevail over malice and selfish intentions.

I: What is your opinion about love?

Lord Krishna: Love and lust happen naturally and transcend societal expectations, restrictions, obligations and morals. My love affair with Radha is an illustrious example in this regard. It is advaita in practice.

I: If morals are not followed in love and lust, will it not be a negative example and role model and lead to chaos?

Lord Krishna: Love happens naturally. Love happens as south breeze touches; as flowers bloom; as moon-light cools; as sunshine warms; as affectionate and dear touch soothes; as rivers flow; as currents swirl; as waves drench; as rains pour; as bliss fills; as peace descends and as Divinity obliges and illumines.

Loving is a delightful human trait. The one who is not drenched by rain and who has not fallen in love does not exist. Love defies logic or reasoning or standards in all aspects and respects. The origin and dissolution of the Universe and other happenings are alternate order and chaos and sometimes simultaneous order and chaos.

Love, when associated with sincerity, and the love is unalloyed, is a sure means for attaining advaita state of mind, that is, the state of bliss, peace and silence.

I: Rajneesh also said this.

Lord Krishna: He confused love with enjoying sex and confined to sexual act, thus attracted many in his initial days and got stuck there. Love of his brand is not enlightened and emancipating. The joy given by carnal pleasure is not extended and transcended. The act is a first step and not the only step in the path of attaining spirituality and salvation. Many waste their lives in indulging in the physical intimacies and will never reach spiritual heights. That is why Rajneesh himself could not save from the disgrace he experienced in the last phase of his life.

Love is primary trait of living beings. But in practice it is confused as just engaging opposite sex with intelligent words and phrases and acts, without both individuals surrendering their identities to the sublime faith, understanding, and insight needed for success, bliss and contentment, So most of the times ditching takes place and hearts break.
Love is a double-edged knife. One must handle it carefully.

I: Is it a must that we must follow brahmacharyam to have a glimpse and then an experience of You?

Lord Krishna: What do you mean brahmacharyam?

I: Abstaining from sex.

Lord Krishna: The meaning of brahmacharyam is to freely roam in Brahman. All the seers always enjoy the meanings of spiritual expressions (vedaanata vaaakyeshu sadaa ramanti) and merge their minds in the purport and import (essence) of the expressions. That is called brahmacharyam. And thus brahmacharyam means to keep Me always in your thoughts, feelings and moods and have an understanding and insight of Me in and through all your actions-secular and spiritual.

I: So one can happily enjoy sex and also can be a spiritual aspirant.

Lord Krishna: Definitely and undoubtedly. Spirituality never forbids fulfillment of natural desires. The desire to have sex is as pious as the desire to attain moksha. “kaami gaaka mokshakaami kadu”- that means, one who does not know to desire can not desire moksha also.

I: Societal objections?

Lord Krishna: Take care of them. I will take care of you. Always chant my name.