Poets That Drivel And Snivel Poem by Herbert Nehrlich

Steady on Herbert, pet, people just trying to offer peaceful solutions here... S.

Excellent idea, Robert. I think all those who want to participate in a continuing debate on this and other subjects ought to go to that site. Feel free to start without me. And if you never see me, continue without me. Why didn't I think of that.

One other thing - I get a little queasy when Germans start referring to groups of people as being inferior. However, I disagree with Ulrike that you're being rascist. But arrogant? Most definitely, and I say that not as an insult because it takes one (me) to know one. I think arrogance is easier for people to take if you fess up to it. Takes the sting out of it anyway.

No need to have written this, Herbert, even though I like the fireworks. I think many folks, especially the younger ones, post here as a catharsis, to sort of legitimize their emotional journal entries before an anonymous audience. Of course, that makes them fair game. But in addition to them, there are a group of people who are regular submitters, think highly of their poetry (behind their self-deprecating protestations) , provide nice comments to others partly in hopes of getting nice comments in return, and most ot them, including most of the ones you listed as ones you like, are not very good poets at all, in my not-so-humble opinion. Instead of blanket statements like yours, I prefer to take people on on a case by case basis, because in most cases, even the most mediocre poets show at least a spark here and there.

Hi, I suggest that people transfer this debate to the Forum/Poetics and Poetry Discussion section.. it's more suited to that and hopefully might evolve into a competent debate about poetry criticism, instead of mud-flinging. Just my tuppence worth, S.

The reason for the last part was that this is a personal message to someone who used to be on p/h, who insulted me in public with slanderous remarks and, as a response, I wrote several poems about the subject. i can think of few things worse than a so-called human being having no evidence of character. As to Witkowski's comments, they are of no significance to me. H

jeezus, Herbert. get over yourself and spare the rest of us your 'endless drivel'.

Sonja, I don't know if you are saying sorry for the content of your next to last message or for double posting it. In any case, the short answer is: No And the long answer is: No. H

Apologies for that.. S

And you being the intiator of the polemic (perhaps poemic :)) with 'Poet's That Drivel and Snivel', you should begin proceedings, no? S.